[cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?

Tue Sep 1 11:01:32 EDT 2009

I think many share you point of view. I think the original question was referring to a new install? 

We don't upgrade unless we have to or there is a new feature we require or a bug fix. For many of the reasons you describe. 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Go0se" <me at go0se.com> 
To: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>, "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:59:22 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? 

IMHO I always err towards the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” school of thought. If I’m on a version that has all of the features I need and is stable and functioning properly (for me) and I feel it is secured properly (firewalled off from the Internets), I won’t rush out to apply the latest release the day after it is posted. I typically would recommend applying the “latest and greatest” stable version (a version that is at least a week old) usually quarterly, simply to keep from getting too far behind. I stay away from the “bleeding edge” releases. Cisco is notorious for releasing a “12.x(x)” code and then three or four days later releasing a “12.x(x)a” code that fixes a bunch of bugs in the first release. 

Having said all of that, if I have any major issues I’ll check the latest code for bug fixes related to my issues and typically try the new code before calling TAC. 

-Go0se 

http://atc.go0se.com 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Wes Sisk 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:09 AM 
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? 

IMHO this is very critical. If you come to me for support I cannot give you a "minimal set" change between where you are and where the fix is available. You are going to get all of the changes from 6.1.3 to 6.1.4 in addition to any new fix that is tailored to your environment. I may be a bit biased as my business leads me to expect things to be broken. To that end it appears prudent to get as close as possible to any patches that may be necessary. 

I would very much like to hear the positions of others. 

/Wes 

On Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:25:24 AM , Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote: 

Ah, yes, that's another way to look at it. As each dot.dot release is released, the previous likely gets shelved for development. 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
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"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com> 
To: "STEVEN CASPER" <SCASPER at mtb.com> 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net , lelio at uoguelph.ca 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 9:04:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? 

6.1(3) is "done" meaning no more ES will be built for it. If you upgrade to 6.1.3 and encounter a serious issue Cisco will require you to upgrade to 6.1.4 or an engineering special of 6.1.4 to get a fix. 

net: 6.1(4) is the "best" place to be currently. 

/Wes 

On Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:18:50 AM , STEVEN CASPER <SCASPER at mtb.com> wrote: 

I believe 6.1.4  fixes the Denial of Service vulnerabilities recently reported. 

Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 08/31/09 11:25 PM >>> Not easy, but necessary. Even taking a look at SEV 1/2 bugs should be enough. Also, my understanding is that ES's are no longer what ES's were in the days of 3.x and 4.x (possibly 5.x). They're not built for individual customers like they used to be, but essentially, they are what service packs used to be. Granted they're not published for some reason. --- Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Phelps" <btphelps at atomicnets.com> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:00:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? meh, thats easy to do. Looking more for opinions and anecdotes. Would most people install an ES without having a specific reason for doing so? B Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: 

I think you'll hear from Cisco TAC over and over, always use the latest version and the latest ES. Nowadays, especially from x.x.3 to x.x.4 it's not feature enhancements but bug fixes mostly. Or so we're told. Take a look at the bug list, see if there are any that stand out and not work for you. --- Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Phelps" <btphelps at atomicnets.com> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:35:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? Which one is more stable? CUCM 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? _______________________________________________ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip at puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip at puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip _______________________________________________ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip at puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ************************************ This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is intended solely for the use of the addressee.  If you are not the intended recipient or entity, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of the information contained in the transmission.  If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.  This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.  You may not directly or indirectly reuse or disclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. There are risks associated with the use of electronic transmission.  The sender of this information does not control the method of transmittal or service providers and assumes no duty or obligation for the security, receipt, or third party interception of this transmission. ************************************ _______________________________________________ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip at puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip 

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