[cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?

[Wes Sisk]

The upgrade on Cisco.com should not be bootable. This is to counter 
piracy.  Ordering from Cisco should provide bootable media.  You need 
bootable media to recognize hardware and start the process, then you can 
feed any patch (upgrade) file.

/Wes

On Monday, September 28, 2009 2:53:35 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification Wes.
>
> Something that was hanging out there was whether or not the upgrade 
> DVD is supposed to be a DVD with an ISO file on it or a DVD cut from 
> the ISO.
>
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> Cc: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>, 
> "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:07:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?
>
> Hi Lelio,
>
> Some thunderbird prowess finally provided the answer:
>
> ********************
> You can't do an upgrade during a W1.  You can do an upgrade followed 
> by a W1 only if the DMA tarball was created for the version of 
> software you upgraded to.  If it was not, you will most likely hit a 
> DB failure.  If the software upgraded to is 6.1.2+, the W1 failure 
> most likely would be due to detection of invalid DMA version versus 
> active version.
> ********************
>
> I also confirmed that a few individuals in TAC have observed successes 
> performing upgrade and import.  These were primarily motivated by the 
> availability of bootable media. For example:
>
> 1. use dma 7.1.3 to export your CM4.1.3 data
> 2. boot from your CM7.0.2 bootable media
> 3. select to upgrade during install
> 4. point to cm713 upgrade file on sftp server
> 5. let install proceed, it will trigger another reboot
> 6. after reboot install will start again. at this point select to 
> import windows data and point to dma file on sftp server
>
> Key being that you used dma for 7.1.3 and used CM version 7.1.3 as the 
> final destination version.  This is just a workaround for not having 
> 7.1.3 bootable media.
>
> Regards,
> Wes
>
> On Monday, September 28, 2009 1:05:37 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
> <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>     ugh.
>
>     ---
>     Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>     Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>     (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>
>     To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>, "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
>     Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>     Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:55:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
>     Eastern
>     Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?
>
>     DMA Import is at install only so you will have to install and dma
>     and then upgrade after you complete the install
>
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>     *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>     [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Lelio
>     Fulgenzi
>     *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2009 12:53 PM
>     *To:* Wes Sisk
>     *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list
>     *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?
>
>      
>
>     ok. thanks. can i do a DMA import after an installation + upgrade
>     is completed? or does DMA import have to be done at install time?
>
>     ---
>     Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>     Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>     (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
>     To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>     Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>     Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:26:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
>     Eastern
>     Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?
>
>     I believe DMA import + upgrade at same time are unsupported:
>     example: dma 4.1, begin install of 7.0, select import windows, and
>     select to apply additional patches (7.1).
>
>     I am looking for supporting documentation.
>
>     /Wes
>
>     On Monday, September 28, 2009 10:03:50 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi
>     <lelio at uoguelph.ca> <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>     Sorry if I posted this already....
>
>     Does anyone know if you can do both a DMA and upgrade at the same
>     time when installing v7.0 ?
>
>     I know I can go through the installation steps myself, but I'm
>     hoping someone will share their experience, secrets or guess.
>
>
>     ---
>     Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>     Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>     (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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