[cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?

Lelio Fulgenzi lelio at uoguelph.ca
Mon Sep 28 14:59:33 EDT 2009


Sorry, I meant to say the "upgrade file", like when it asks you for the location of the upgrade file as in SFTP or local media. I'd like to cut a DVD but when I created a DVD from the ISO it failed. I heard talk of it just wanting to see the ISO file on the DVD. 

So: put in 7.0 media, choose to upgrade, pop in DVD with 7.1(3) ISO file on it as the only file. 


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>, "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:56:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time? 

The upgrade on Cisco.com should not be bootable. This is to counter piracy. Ordering from Cisco should provide bootable media. You need bootable media to recognize hardware and start the process, then you can feed any patch (upgrade) file. 

/Wes 

On Monday, September 28, 2009 2:53:35 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote: 



Thanks for the clarification Wes. 

Something that was hanging out there was whether or not the upgrade DVD is supposed to be a DVD with an ISO file on it or a DVD cut from the ISO. 



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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
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"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> , "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:07:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time? 

Hi Lelio, 

Some thunderbird prowess finally provided the answer: 

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You can't do an upgrade during a W1. You can do an upgrade followed by a W1 only if the DMA tarball was created for the version of software you upgraded to. If it was not, you will most likely hit a DB failure. If the software upgraded to is 6.1.2+, the W1 failure most likely would be due to detection of invalid DMA version versus active version. 
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I also confirmed that a few individuals in TAC have observed successes performing upgrade and import. These were primarily motivated by the availability of bootable media. For example: 

1. use dma 7.1.3 to export your CM4.1.3 data 
2. boot from your CM7.0.2 bootable media 
3. select to upgrade during install 
4. point to cm713 upgrade file on sftp server 
5. let install proceed, it will trigger another reboot 
6. after reboot install will start again. at this point select to import windows data and point to dma file on sftp server 

Key being that you used dma for 7.1.3 and used CM version 7.1.3 as the final destination version. This is just a workaround for not having 7.1.3 bootable media. 

Regards, 
Wes 

On Monday, September 28, 2009 1:05:37 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote: 



ugh. 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
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"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> , "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com> 
Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:55:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time? 




DMA Import is at install only so you will have to install and dma and then upgrade after you complete the install 






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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [ mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net ] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:53 PM 
To: Wes Sisk 
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time? 




ok. thanks. can i do a DMA import after an installation + upgrade is completed? or does DMA import have to be done at install time? 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:26:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time? 

I believe DMA import + upgrade at same time are unsupported: 
example: dma 4.1, begin install of 7.0, select import windows, and select to apply additional patches (7.1). 

I am looking for supporting documentation. 

/Wes 

On Monday, September 28, 2009 10:03:50 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote: 




Sorry if I posted this already.... 

Does anyone know if you can do both a DMA and upgrade at the same time when installing v7.0 ? 

I know I can go through the installation steps myself, but I'm hoping someone will share their experience, secrets or guess. 


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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt 
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