[cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?

Tue Sep 29 10:25:56 EDT 2009

In my VMs I mount the ISO files as physical media and it recognizes  
the file so I know for certain that burning the iso as an image will  
work.  Given that the SFTP option downloads the actual .iso file my  
guess is it will work either way.

-Ryan

On Sep 28, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:

Sorry, I meant to say the "upgrade file", like when it asks you for  
the location of the upgrade file as in SFTP or local media. I'd like  
to cut a DVD but when I created a DVD from the ISO it failed. I heard  
talk of it just wanting to see the ISO file on the DVD.

So: put in 7.0 media, choose to upgrade, pop in DVD with 7.1(3) ISO  
file on it as the only file.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
Cc: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>, "cisco- 
voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:56:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?

The upgrade on Cisco.com should not be bootable. This is to counter  
piracy.  Ordering from Cisco should provide bootable media.  You need  
bootable media to recognize hardware and start the process, then you  
can feed any patch (upgrade) file.

/Wes

On Monday, September 28, 2009 2:53:35 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca 
 > wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Wes.

Something that was hanging out there was whether or not the upgrade  
DVD is supposed to be a DVD with an ISO file on it or a DVD cut from  
the ISO.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
Cc: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>, "cisco- 
voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:07:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?

Hi Lelio,

Some thunderbird prowess finally provided the answer:

********************
You can't do an upgrade during a W1.  You can do an upgrade followed  
by a W1 only if the DMA tarball was created for the version of  
software you upgraded to.  If it was not, you will most likely hit a  
DB failure.  If the software upgraded to is 6.1.2+, the W1 failure  
most likely would be due to detection of invalid DMA version versus  
active version.
********************

I also confirmed that a few individuals in TAC have observed successes  
performing upgrade and import.  These were primarily motivated by the  
availability of bootable media. For example:

1. use dma 7.1.3 to export your CM4.1.3 data
2. boot from your CM7.0.2 bootable media
3. select to upgrade during install
4. point to cm713 upgrade file on sftp server
5. let install proceed, it will trigger another reboot
6. after reboot install will start again. at this point select to  
import windows data and point to dma file on sftp server

Key being that you used dma for 7.1.3 and used CM version 7.1.3 as the  
final destination version.  This is just a workaround for not having  
7.1.3 bootable media.

Regards,
Wes

On Monday, September 28, 2009 1:05:37 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca 
 > wrote:
ugh.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>, "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:55:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada  
Eastern
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?

DMA Import is at install only so you will have to install and dma and  
then upgrade after you complete the install

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net 
] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:53 PM
To: Wes Sisk
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?

ok. thanks. can i do a DMA import after an installation + upgrade is  
completed? or does DMA import have to be done at install time?

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:26:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada  
Eastern
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] DMA and upgrade at the same time?

I believe DMA import + upgrade at same time are unsupported:
example: dma 4.1, begin install of 7.0, select import windows, and  
select to apply additional patches (7.1).

I am looking for supporting documentation.

/Wes

On Monday, September 28, 2009 10:03:50 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca 
 > wrote:

Sorry if I posted this already....

Does anyone know if you can do both a DMA and upgrade at the same time  
when installing v7.0 ?

I know I can go through the installation steps myself, but I'm hoping  
someone will share their experience, secrets or guess.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt

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