[cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how?

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Thanks. Just checked the feature navigator. It mentions SAF feature is available on VG224 platform releases. 

But as I found out earlier, if SAF is not on the VG224 data sheet, it's not supported by TAC. :( 

I could always try and use a gatekeeper as a fallback. 


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From: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <chrward at cisco.com> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>, "Mike King" <me at mpking.com> 
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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:52:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how? 




SAF is modeled after EIGRP, but does not require EIGRP. If the feature navigator says you are good, maybe you are in luck. 




+Chris 





From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:44 PM 
To: Mike King 
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how? 




Thanks Mike. Definitely clears up the configuration steps and I'll have to read up a bit more on whether a device should be a forwarder or a client, but it still doesn't mention anything about supported devices. Last I talked with the TAC, EIGRP routing was not supported on the VG224 (even stub, although it's listed in the feature navigator), so if SAF is anything like EIGRP (which it sounds like it is, I'm guessing the VG224 team might likely say no to this as well. :( 



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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
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From: "Mike King" <me at mpking.com> 
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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:49:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how? 

Lelio, 


Take a look at this, it might help a little: 



http://www.cisco.rw/en/US/docs/ios/saf/configuration/guide/saf_cg.pdf 








On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi < lelio at uoguelph.ca > wrote: 



hmmm, doesn't look like the VG224 supports this. :( 




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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. 
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil) 


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From: "Chris Ward (chrward)" < chrward at cisco.com > 
To: "Robert Kulagowski" < rkulagow at gmail.com > 
Cc: "Lelio Fulgenzi" < lelio at uoguelph.ca >, "cisco-voip voyp list" < cisco-voip at puck.nether.net > 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:08:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how? 

Try this: 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/8x/netstruc.html 
#wp1155951 

It's from the SRND so it should be more descriptive. 

+Chris 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Robert Kulagowski [mailto: rkulagow at gmail.com ] 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:17 AM 
To: Chris Ward (chrward) 
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip voyp list 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how? 

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Chris Ward (chrward) 
< chrward at cisco.com > wrote: 
> Well, that just means your UCMs can't join the SAF network. The SAF 
> forwarders and other IOS devices just need a 15.X IOS and they should 
be 
> able to participate. 

Can you provide additional information on how this can be useful in a 
voice environment? Configurations, etc? The two links don't have 
much, and one basically just punts: 

" 
Q. I understand SAF can greatly simplify my voice-over-IP (VoIP) 
deployment. Where can I find more information on how to deploy SAF 
with my Unified Communications 8.0 application? 
A. Please contact the Voice Technology Group through your account 
representative or reseller for more information or visit 
http://www.cisco.com/go/saf . 
" 

Are you in the Voice Technology Group? Can we consider this a 
"contact"? :) 


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