[cisco-voip] Does anyone know the features sip phones do that have that SCCP phones can do?

[Nate VanMaren]

I think call waiting is coming, like cm 8.5 time frame.

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ki Wi
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:42 AM
To: Dennis Heim
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does anyone know the features sip phones do that have that SCCP phones can do?

i deployed 6921 recently, it's the most interesting phones cisco ever
produced besides 7921 (the one with speakerphone mode but no mic)

6921 comes with speakerphone mode BUT it doesn't comes with call
waiting?!!! Even my analog phone at home have call waiting feature.

The workaround is to use make use of line 2 of that phone... oh well....



On 8/30/10, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com> wrote:
> And keep in mind that SIP phones carry higher DLU requirements.
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> Dennis Heim
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> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:22 AM
> To: mthompson729 at gmail.com
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does anyone know the features sip phones do that
> have that SCCP phones can do?
>
> If you go for the 69XX phones be sure to read up on their features and even
> get one to play with if you can.  They are low end phones specifically
> targeted at a certain market segment and if that's not your users they may
> find them a bit lacking.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:08 AM,
> mthompson729 at gmail.com<mailto:mthompson729 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Greg,
> I'm actually a recent convert over to the feature parity of SIP <-> SCCP,
> especially in the UCM 7.0+ systems. Other than building each phone
> differently, in UCM, there won't be much loss. Now, using the cheap SIP
> phones instead of using the more feature rich devices like the 69XX or 79XX
> phones, that will come down to a cost / feature decision. I'd check out the
> 69XX phones, it could save over $100k and keep you in the Cisco product
> line. It may come down to working with the local Cisco account team, get a
> demo of a few different phones, and run a pilot of about 10 or 20 folks.
> That way they know what features they will really want/need and see that
> they probably won't want those cheap SIP phones.
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2010 6:20am, Gregory Wenzel
> <gwenzit at gmail.com<mailto:gwenzit at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I have a client with approx 1000 phones and is about to do an office job
>> on this legacy system. He is stuck on sip, why I have no clue but most
>> likely he wants to use cucm8.5 with cheap sip phones besides his service
>> provider telling him he should go all sip and run g729 on-net is not such
>> a great advice, that will only save him in the shortrun with purchasing
>> dsp modules. They have no bandwidth issue haveing a comcast tls 100mb link
>> betw the two sites and a few satelite offices in the philly area. Not ever
>> having built a purely sip system. They have 3 pri's now and I dont see
>> them needing to run g729 onnet and  loose that sound quality.
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>> What does it mean when you have to build the dial plan? and a sip profife
>> for each phone? im embarassed to even ask that but wanted some
>> clairfication from anyone on the group for the dial plan question and
>> besides video advantage not working yet with sip phones what are the other
>> features that do not work yet?
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>> even a  link to the answer would help or a kick in the butt right
>> direction would be great
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>> Regards,
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>> Greg
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