[cisco-voip] 3845 DSP

Dennis Heim Dennis.Heim at cdw.com
Thu Feb 11 09:36:24 EST 2010


I wouldn't use the excited about modems and faxes... but rather the chance of less headaches.

Dennis Heim
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-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick Matthews
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:24 AM
To: Justin Steinberg
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 3845 DSP

This is a software-layer feature, so you should see the same improvements whether you have 2nd or 3rd gen DSPs.  The world is getting excited about faxes and modems again!

-nick

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Justin Steinberg <jsteinberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> nick do you know if this 15.1(T) feature will be require PVDM3s ?
>
> Assuming the 15.1(T) ISRg2 terminates the TDM PSTN connection, will 
> V90/32 work for fax/modems that connect via a VG224 ?    Or will this 
> only work for devices off an FXS on an ISRg2 with PVDM3s and 15.1(1)T ?
>
> Justin
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Nick Matthews <matthnick at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is one of the 15.1(1)T features that will be available in the 
>> next few months.  V.90 and V.32 ( speeds greater than 14.4k) will be 
>> supported for T38 and modem passthrough.  You are correct that 
>> anything above that is best effort currently.
>>
>> -nick
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:46 PM,  <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>> > There is mention in the docs that IOS v15 supports SG3 speeds natively.
>> > If you read the Fax guide it's in there.
>> > I can look for it later and send to the list, but I believe I 
>> > posted it (or a snippit) to the list before so you might find it in 
>> > the archives.
>> >
>> > Lelio Fulgenzi, Senior Analyst
>> > Computing & Communications
>> > University of Guelph
>> > 519-824-4120 x56354
>> > ...sent from my iPod - please pardon my fat fingers ;) [XKJ2000] On 
>> > 2010-02-09, at 5:14 PM, Justin Steinberg <jsteinberg at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > i'm curious about what speed modem/fax transmission they can support.
>> > I've
>> > always heard the 5510s supported 14400 and anything above that was 
>> > best effort.  It would be nice if the new DSPs could transmit at SG3.
>> >
>> > Anyone know anything about that ?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Peter Slow <peter.slow at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> yes, sp2600 DSPs are the PVDM3s. they are completely different 
>> >> from the 5510 / PVDM2s and there are limitations as to their 
>> >> coexistence within the same chassis. if you want to see what the 
>> >> capabilities of your PVDM3 are, you can use the command "show voice dsp capabilities"
>> >> and see some interesting output. I'm not sure about the specific 
>> >> video capabilities other than that there will be some. Ive heard 
>> >> video specific rumors but since i don't know facts about them i'll 
>> >> keep my yap shut ;)
>> >>
>> >> -Peter
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > my 3945 is out of the box, and i needed to do a 'show voice dsp 
>> >> > detailed' to get SP2600
>> >> >
>> >> > are they these?
>> >> >
>> >> > http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/552559
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
>> >> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> >> > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario 
>> >> > N1G 2W1
>> >> > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> >> >
>> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > ^^^^^^ Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>> >> >                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. 
>> >> > Popeil)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Jason Shearer" <jshearer at amedisys.com>
>> >> > To: "Mark Holloway" <mh at markholloway.com>
>> >> > Cc: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>, 
>> >> > cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>> >> > Sent: Monday, February 8, 2010 7:30:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
>> >> > Eastern
>> >> > Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] 3845 DSP
>> >> >
>> >> > Interesting.  I'll see what info I can squeeze out of my account 
>> >> > team.
>> >> > Definitely looks like a completely different architecture.  Can 
>> >> > someone that is running a PVDM3 get us a 'show voice dsp' to see 
>> >> > what the chipset is?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Jason
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: Mark Holloway [mailto:mh at markholloway.com]
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:15 PM
>> >> > To: Jason Shearer
>> >> > Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>> >> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 3845 DSP
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Unfortunately the product specification for the PVDM2 and PVDM3 
>> >> > are listed in two totally different formats.  The PVDM2 product 
>> >> > spec is very forthcoming in stating the PVDM2 uses Texas 
>> >> > Instruments DSP and runs at either 200mhz or 175mhz.  The 
>> >> > specification for PVDM3 doesn't state what type of DSP is used 
>> >> > or the clock cycles.  It only says "Multicore DSP technology" - 
>> >> > so I don't think Cisco wants to share that information right 
>> >> > now.  It's possible that once someone gets their hands on one 
>> >> > they will know more information.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > It's not easy to find details about video and the PVDM3.  
>> >> > Perhaps video conference mixing?  The following is the closest 
>> >> > thing I could find.
>> >> > "Video
>> >> > feature ready"
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:15 AM, Jason Shearer wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The PVDM2-64 and PVDM3-64 are the same price ($3200 list) 
>> >> > although you can get them in much denser versions.  Has anyone 
>> >> > run into any problems or flakiness with the v3's?  Are they 
>> >> > running the same 5510 chipset?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > One thing that is interesting is that it says it is a "voice and 
>> >> > video"
>> >> > DSP.  What does this mean?  Is it going to be able to transcode 
>> >> > or mix video?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Jason
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net 
>> >> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mark 
>> >> > Holloway
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:32 AM
>> >> > To: Lelio Fulgenzi
>> >> > Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>> >> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 3845 DSP
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The new PVDM3 modules are great. They are more expensive than 
>> >> > PVDM2 of course, but they serve their purpose well.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Conferencing, Transcoding, and Transrating Services
>> >> >
>> >> > The PVDM3 modules support digital voice connections, analog 
>> >> > voice connections, conferencing, and universal transcoding 
>> >> > services. The same DSPs on the PVDM3 modules can now support all 
>> >> > the services with a single DSP image. In addition, the PVDM3 
>> >> > supports a higher number of conference sessions and a higher 
>> >> > number of participants per conference than the PVDM2.
>> >> > The PVDM3-256 can support up to 6 conferences with 64 
>> >> > participants in each conference and up to 66 conferences with 8 
>> >> > participants in each conference.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > <image001.png>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe you can configure only one software bridge per server, 
>> >> > or in retrospect you can configure a server as a software bridge 
>> >> > only once.
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe it takes some serious resources to run as a software 
>> >> > bridge so you don't want to be doing it on your publisher or any 
>> >> > subscribers that are close to capacity. If you have a standalone 
>> >> > DHCP/TFTP server in your design, you should be able to get away 
>> >> > with using that.
>> >> >
>> >> > A software bridge does not have the hardware limitations w/ 
>> >> > number of conference participants or number of conferences, but 
>> >> > the system will just die if it can't keep up.
>> >> >
>> >> > I haven't done a cost analysis, but I still think it would be 
>> >> > cheaper to buy a small router with lots of DSPs and use that 
>> >> > than to install and maintain CCM box.
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
>> >> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> >> > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario 
>> >> > N1G 2W1
>> >> > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> >> >
>> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> > ^^^^^^ Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>> >> >                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. 
>> >> > Popeil)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Robert Shearrill" <rshearri at uchicago.edu>
>> >> > To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>> >> > Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 6:22:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
>> >> > Eastern
>> >> > Subject: [cisco-voip] 3845 DSP
>> >> >
>> >> > Can some one tell me if i remove all my hardware conf bridges, 
>> >> > how many software conf bridges will i have and how are they 
>> >> > used. I am version
>> >> > 7.1.2
>> >> > CCUM.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > How many software conf bridges do i have per server?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Robert
>> >> >
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