[cisco-voip] IOS 15.0

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Cisco has a free software tool to manage licences on several  
platforms. I think it's called license manager. I'm not sure how good  
it is, but it might help.

…
Don't look at me, my iPod maid that spilling mistake.

On 2010-07-26, at 7:44 AM, "Philip Walenta" <pwalenta at wi.rr.com> wrote:

> As someone that needs to support CUCM and the whole Cisco UC  
> environment I would second this opinion.  This makes it difficult as  
> a vendor that needs to support Cisco UC because we now need to spend  
> more money to support this environment (gee, Cisco wanting more  
> money, go figure?).
>
>
>
> I have five global labs to support and the whole new download/ 
> contract thing really gets in the way as now I need to verify that  
> at least 40 people have all the right contracts to get all the right  
> software – makes it a PITA when you have a few hundred SMARTnet cont 
> ract numbers.
>
>
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>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip- 
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:47 AM
> To: Scott Voll
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0
>
>
>
> IMO it would be a matter of separating software support from  
> hardware support for the phones.  Maybe that software support is  
> bundled with the CUCM software, maybe it isn't.   If they decide you  
> need to have some type of coverage in order to download phone  
> firmware then just because we may give you some free updates doesn't  
> automatically entitle you to all the other ones.
>
>
>
> I have to stress that this is purely my opinion and (thank goodness)  
> I have no input, nor really any knowledge of how and why UC is  
> licensed the way it is.   I'd say bug the PMs and your service  
> contract rep about it if you feel it overly burdensome or just  
> downright dumb.
>
>
>
> -Ryan
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Scott Voll wrote:
>
>
> I see that happening when I download new phone firmware, as we don't  
> smartnet phones.  But really?  How does Cisco think that's going to  
> work?  new firmware comes with each CM update.  What are others  
> going to do?  just update CM more often?  or smartnet a single phone?
>
>
>
> Financially it just doesn't make sense to smartnet many phones when  
> in all reality you get the firmware with the CM updates.
>
>
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Bill <bill at hitechconnection.net>  
> wrote:
>
> Correct, I was pointing out that you can’t change versions such as a 
> dding CUBE or IPIPGW just because you can download it. You never cou 
> ld do this but people did it all the time.
>
>
>
> I don’t know if you have noticed or not but you will soon not be abl 
> e to download software that you don’t have a contract for.
>
>
>
> From: Ahmed Elnagar [mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:00 AM
> To: Bill; Dennis Heim; Scott Voll
>
>
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have a smart net or shared support activated through a Cisco  
> partner you are eligible to have the latest IOS upgrade…technically  
> starting from 15 Cisco started to enforce the license “like the diff 
> erence between CUCM 4.x and 5.x”
>
>
>
>  Best Regards;
>
>   Ahmed Elnagar
>
>   Senior Network PS Engineer
>
>   Mob: +2019-0016211
>
>   CCIE#24697 (Voice)
>
>  <image001.jpg>
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>
> From: Bill [mailto:bill at hitechconnection.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:39 PM
> To: Ahmed Elnagar; 'Dennis Heim'; 'Scott Voll'
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0
>
>
>
> “you cannot just install any version just if you have the correct DR 
> AM and Flash”
>
>
>
> You couldn’t do that before, You still had to purchase the correct v 
> ersion it just did not enforce the rules.
>
>
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip- 
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:18 AM
> To: Dennis Heim; Scott Voll
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0
>
>
>
> Working fine “till now” watch out for the license as you cannot  
> just install any version just if you have the correct DRAM and Flash 
>  “I don’t know what will it be for upgrades”…for 15.1 I was  
> trying to run SRST 8.0 but I failed and till now I don’t know the re 
> ason…I had to go to 15.0 to run SRST 7.1.
>
> I have 15.0 as SIP gateway woth PRIs and H323 with PRIs and FXs.
>
>
>
>  Best Regards;
>
>   Ahmed Elnagar
>
>   Senior Network PS Engineer
>
>   Mob: +2019-0016211
>
>   CCIE#24697 (Voice)
>
>  <image001.jpg>
>
>
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip- 
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Heim
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:28 AM
> To: Scott Voll; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0
>
>
>
> Just don’t do it unless you have to.
>
>
>
> Dennis Heim
> Network Voice Engineer
> CDW  Advanced Technology Services
> 11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
> Carmel, IN  46032
>
> 317.569.4255 Office
> 317.569.4201 Fax
> 317.694.6070 Cell
>
> dennis.heim at cdw.com
> cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/
>
>
>
>
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip- 
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Scott Voll
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:40 PM
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0
>
>
>
> anyone running IOS 15.0 on any devices?  eg. Vg224's / 3800 / 2800  
> VGWs?
>
>
>
> we are upgrading soon and would like any kind of feedback from the  
> field.
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
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