[cisco-voip] IOS 15.0

Mon Jul 26 07:38:15 EDT 2010

As someone that needs to support CUCM and the whole Cisco UC environment I
would second this opinion.  This makes it difficult as a vendor that needs
to support Cisco UC because we now need to spend more money to support this
environment (gee, Cisco wanting more money, go figure?).   

I have five global labs to support and the whole new download/contract thing
really gets in the way as now I need to verify that at least 40 people have
all the right contracts to get all the right software - makes it a PITA when
you have a few hundred SMARTnet contract numbers.

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Scott Voll
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0

IMO it would be a matter of separating software support from hardware
support for the phones.  Maybe that software support is bundled with the
CUCM software, maybe it isn't.   If they decide you need to have some type
of coverage in order to download phone firmware then just because we may
give you some free updates doesn't automatically entitle you to all the
other ones. 

I have to stress that this is purely my opinion and (thank goodness) I have
no input, nor really any knowledge of how and why UC is licensed the way it
is.   I'd say bug the PMs and your service contract rep about it if you feel
it overly burdensome or just downright dumb.

-Ryan

On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Scott Voll wrote:

I see that happening when I download new phone firmware, as we don't
smartnet phones.  But really?  How does Cisco think that's going to work?
new firmware comes with each CM update.  What are others going to do?  just
update CM more often?  or smartnet a single phone?

Financially it just doesn't make sense to smartnet many phones when in all
reality you get the firmware with the CM updates.

Scott 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Bill <bill at hitechconnection.net> wrote:

Correct, I was pointing out that you can't change versions such as adding
CUBE or IPIPGW just because you can download it. You never could do this but
people did it all the time.

I don't know if you have noticed or not but you will soon not be able to
download software that you don't have a contract for. 

  _____  

From: Ahmed Elnagar [mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:00 AM
To: Bill; Dennis Heim; Scott Voll

Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0

If you have a smart net or shared support activated through a Cisco partner
you are eligible to have the latest IOS upgrade.technically starting from 15
Cisco started to enforce the license "like the difference between CUCM 4.x
and 5.x"

 Best Regards;

  Ahmed Elnagar

  Senior Network PS Engineer

  Mob: +2019-0016211

  CCIE#24697 (Voice)

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From: Bill [mailto:bill at hitechconnection.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:39 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar; 'Dennis Heim'; 'Scott Voll'
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0

"you cannot just install any version just if you have the correct DRAM and
Flash"

You couldn't do that before, You still had to purchase the correct version
it just did not enforce the rules. 

  _____  

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:18 AM
To: Dennis Heim; Scott Voll
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0

Working fine "till now" watch out for the license as you cannot just install
any version just if you have the correct DRAM and Flash "I don't know what
will it be for upgrades".for 15.1 I was trying to run SRST 8.0 but I failed
and till now I don't know the reason.I had to go to 15.0 to run SRST 7.1.

I have 15.0 as SIP gateway woth PRIs and H323 with PRIs and FXs.

 Best Regards;

  Ahmed Elnagar

  Senior Network PS Engineer

  Mob: +2019-0016211

  CCIE#24697 (Voice)

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Heim
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:28 AM
To: Scott Voll; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0

Just don't do it unless you have to.

Dennis Heim
Network Voice Engineer
CDW  Advanced Technology Services
11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
Carmel, IN  46032

317.569.4255 Office
317.569.4201 Fax
317.694.6070 Cell

dennis.heim at cdw.com
cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/
<http://www.cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/> 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Scott Voll
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:40 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] IOS 15.0

anyone running IOS 15.0 on any devices?  eg. Vg224's / 3800 / 2800 VGWs?

we are upgrading soon and would like any kind of feedback from the field.

TIA

Scott

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