[cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...

[Rhodium]

Not as easy as you think but anything is possible... ;o) The same way that its easy for a "closed source" (forgive the misnomer) programmer to slip that in.

Depends on the programming language used, style, etc. 

One think I took away from these types of projects and platforms is that they are not as scary as you think and support is now more readily available as the people in charge have cottoned on that there is a lot of money to be made if companies adopt their products and they pay for support. We have deployed Asterisk in South Africa and it was installed by a partner and supported by the vendor. Quite a good experience actually. :) Cost us MUCH less than a 3 server CUCM cluster but I am a purist so even though it was good, it wasn't Cisco. :)

--- On Fri, 3/5/10, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...
> To: "Rhodium" <rhodium_uk at yahoo.co.uk>
> Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>, "John Huston" <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 9:40 PM
> #yiv595677834 p
> {margin:0;}interesting.
> thanks.
> 
> wonder how easy it would be to slip an IP address disguised
> as a single decimal number in some code or even as some sort
> of list of escape sequences so no one would catch on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rhodium" <rhodium_uk at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "John Huston"
> <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>, "Lelio Fulgenzi"
> <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list"
> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 4:21:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> Eastern
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...
> 
> Here's a link about the life cycle of asterisk:
> 
> http://www.asterisk.org/developers/life-cycle
> 
> The last bit is the most important section... Its a common
> misconception and one I must admit to having when I first
> heard of "open source" but the more I delved into,
> the more I saw that there are checks in place to try and
> catch this stuff. I am not saying it doesnt happen at all, I
> am just saying that as with Cisco, you have an approval
> process for code so for something like that to happen, it
> has to be a big oversight. For example, if I am working on a
> bug to fix it, then I am only constrained to rectifying the
> bug. Not on any other unrelated code which has nothing to do
> with the feature or service I am working on. In that sense,
> I guess you can call it compartmentalised.
> 
> J
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Lelio Fulgenzi
> <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> 
> > From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...
> > To: "John Huston"
> <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list"
> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:22 PM
> > #yiv141557534 p
> > {margin:0;}I'm
> > not fully versed with open source and how it works,
> but is
> > it possible that someone from the community can
> interject
> > malicious code? I mean, I would gather that it
> wouldn't
> > be in there long, but if it's like wikipedia,
> can't
> > someone put in code that "phones home" and
> do some
> > damage before someone retracts it?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---
> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
> > Ontario N1G 2W1
> > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> >
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget
> it. 
> >             
>  
> >              
>  - LFJ
> > (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Huston"
> > <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "cisco-voip voyp list"
> > <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 3:11:36 PM GMT -05:00
> US/Canada
> > Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...
> > 
> > K-12, small to medium business, with users
> > being from under 10 up to 700.  It's not for
> a
> > Boeing, Lockeed, State or Fed gov. depolyment but
> > Callmanager wasn't either when it came out.
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Bill Simon
> > <bills at psu.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Bill Simon <bills at psu.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...
> > To: "cisco-voip voyp list"
> > <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 11:57 AM
> > 
> > 
> > John Huston wrote:
> > > Cisco is not crediting you for anything extra
> right
> > now.  While they have good product it's
> getting too
> > expensive for a value to use type ratio, just like it
> is to
> > run Microsoft products.  We're seeing a move
> from
> > Cisco to Juniper for routers and switches and then
> from
> > Callmanager to Asterisk phone systems. 
> They're
> > cheaper to run and customers are not paying for
> featues they
> > do not use often.
> > 
> > Who's your demographic?
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