[cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...

Lelio Fulgenzi lelio at uoguelph.ca
Fri Mar 5 16:40:57 EST 2010


interesting. thanks. 

wonder how easy it would be to slip an IP address disguised as a single decimal number in some code or even as some sort of list of escape sequences so no one would catch on. 




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From: "Rhodium" <rhodium_uk at yahoo.co.uk> 
To: "John Huston" <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>, "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes... 

Here's a link about the life cycle of asterisk: 

http://www.asterisk.org/developers/life-cycle 

The last bit is the most important section... Its a common misconception and one I must admit to having when I first heard of "open source" but the more I delved into, the more I saw that there are checks in place to try and catch this stuff. I am not saying it doesnt happen at all, I am just saying that as with Cisco, you have an approval process for code so for something like that to happen, it has to be a big oversight. For example, if I am working on a bug to fix it, then I am only constrained to rectifying the bug. Not on any other unrelated code which has nothing to do with the feature or service I am working on. In that sense, I guess you can call it compartmentalised. 

J 



--- On Fri, 3/5/10, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote: 

> From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes... 
> To: "John Huston" <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com> 
> Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> 
> Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:22 PM 
> #yiv141557534 p 
> {margin:0;}I'm 
> not fully versed with open source and how it works, but is 
> it possible that someone from the community can interject 
> malicious code? I mean, I would gather that it wouldn't 
> be in there long, but if it's like wikipedia, can't 
> someone put in code that "phones home" and do some 
> damage before someone retracts it? 
> 
> 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> K-12, small to medium business, with users 
> being from under 10 up to 700. It's not for a 
> Boeing, Lockeed, State or Fed gov. depolyment but 
> Callmanager wasn't either when it came out. 
> 
> --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Bill Simon 
> <bills at psu.edu> wrote: 
> 
> 
> From: Bill Simon <bills at psu.edu> 
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes... 
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> Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 11:57 AM 
> 
> 
> John Huston wrote: 
> > Cisco is not crediting you for anything extra right 
> now. While they have good product it's getting too 
> expensive for a value to use type ratio, just like it is to 
> run Microsoft products. We're seeing a move from 
> Cisco to Juniper for routers and switches and then from 
> Callmanager to Asterisk phone systems. They're 
> cheaper to run and customers are not paying for featues they 
> do not use often. 
> 
> Who's your demographic? 
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