[cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...

Cristobal Priego cristobalpriego at gmail.com
Thu Mar 11 15:58:29 EST 2010


Quick video on new Cisco Licensing Model

https://www.myciscocommunity.com/videos/4524

2010/3/8 Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>

> And for an enterprise it also comes down to support.  if they have a
> staffer to take care of CM they can get a VAR to take over in case they
> leave.  if it's open source it's a little harder to get someone to come in
> and support it.
>
> just my 2 cents.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Jason Aarons (US) <
> jason.aarons at us.didata.com> wrote:
>
>> With experience you learn building a fence from pieces usually costs
>> more than buying the sections pre-built or getting the whole fence from
>> a professional fence builder/installer. Buying a service or commercial
>> off the shelf application with support usually has a fixed price.
>>
>> Can tell you how many self-developed application deployments have been
>> huge money pits..Siebel is the first that comes to mind...Salesforce as
>> a service is so much better. Risk is also a large factor for most
>> enterprises. They tend to be late adopters to avoid any risk.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Alan Buxey
>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:49 PM
>> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...
>>
>> Hi,
>> > I'm not fully versed with open source and how it works, but is it
>> possible that someone from the community can interject malicious code? I
>> mean, I would gather that it wouldn't be in there long, but if it's like
>> wikipedia, can't someone put in code that "phones home" and do some
>> damage before someone retracts it?
>>
>> no - too many eye are on the submission process.
>>
>> the funny thing is, even though open source code is fully open
>> and readable, more people find nice bugs in the closed proporietary
>> vendor
>> code. (sure, some projects have been whacked...but well managed ones
>> tend to not have had such issues)
>>
>> there seems ot be some kind of funny knee-jerk reaction and mistrust
>> of OpenSource code...a LOT of Cisco (and Juniper etc) modern kit if
>> build with a large base of Open Source code running at the lower levels.
>>
>> A company (be it small, medium or FTSE/NASDAQ 100 etc) would be foolish
>> to ignore Open Source or just discount it as worthless.
>>
>> *IF* an OpenSource tool can do the job as well as some commercial
>> vendors
>> product then why not? (*)
>>
>> alan
>>
>> * the answer is generally 'support'. If you've got the skill to deal
>> with
>> it and understand why it goes wrong (**) in house then you are sorted
>>
>> ** plenty of expensive non Open Source software goes wrong too...and
>> needs
>> local skills or a lot of time spent calling the TAC/vendor  ;-)
>>
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