[cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...

[Scott Voll]

anyone else have issues logging into this?  I'm now getting java style login
+ the normal login and my user / pwd no longer works.

Cisco must be trying something new?

Scott

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Cristobal Priego <
cristobalpriego at gmail.com> wrote:

> Quick video on new Cisco Licensing Model
>
> https://www.myciscocommunity.com/videos/4524
>
> 2010/3/8 Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>
> And for an enterprise it also comes down to support.  if they have a
>> staffer to take care of CM they can get a VAR to take over in case they
>> leave.  if it's open source it's a little harder to get someone to come in
>> and support it.
>>
>> just my 2 cents.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Jason Aarons (US) <
>> jason.aarons at us.didata.com> wrote:
>>
>>> With experience you learn building a fence from pieces usually costs
>>> more than buying the sections pre-built or getting the whole fence from
>>> a professional fence builder/installer. Buying a service or commercial
>>> off the shelf application with support usually has a fixed price.
>>>
>>> Can tell you how many self-developed application deployments have been
>>> huge money pits..Siebel is the first that comes to mind...Salesforce as
>>> a service is so much better. Risk is also a large factor for most
>>> enterprises. They tend to be late adopters to avoid any risk.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>>> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Alan Buxey
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:49 PM
>>> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
>>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco licensing changes...
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> > I'm not fully versed with open source and how it works, but is it
>>> possible that someone from the community can interject malicious code? I
>>> mean, I would gather that it wouldn't be in there long, but if it's like
>>> wikipedia, can't someone put in code that "phones home" and do some
>>> damage before someone retracts it?
>>>
>>> no - too many eye are on the submission process.
>>>
>>> the funny thing is, even though open source code is fully open
>>> and readable, more people find nice bugs in the closed proporietary
>>> vendor
>>> code. (sure, some projects have been whacked...but well managed ones
>>> tend to not have had such issues)
>>>
>>> there seems ot be some kind of funny knee-jerk reaction and mistrust
>>> of OpenSource code...a LOT of Cisco (and Juniper etc) modern kit if
>>> build with a large base of Open Source code running at the lower levels.
>>>
>>> A company (be it small, medium or FTSE/NASDAQ 100 etc) would be foolish
>>> to ignore Open Source or just discount it as worthless.
>>>
>>> *IF* an OpenSource tool can do the job as well as some commercial
>>> vendors
>>> product then why not? (*)
>>>
>>> alan
>>>
>>> * the answer is generally 'support'. If you've got the skill to deal
>>> with
>>> it and understand why it goes wrong (**) in house then you are sorted
>>>
>>> ** plenty of expensive non Open Source software goes wrong too...and
>>> needs
>>> local skills or a lot of time spent calling the TAC/vendor  ;-)
>>>
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