[cisco-voip] Cisco Mobile 8.0 / CUMA

Tim Frazee tfrazee at gmail.com
Mon May 17 21:04:12 EDT 2010


It seems to me that Cisco really messed up with this product. They have
named 2 products with very, very similar names and very similar functions.
This confusion I'm sure is farther than just what we see here on this list.

Here is what I know about:

Cisco Mobile 8.0 for iPhone:
*SIP phone for iPhone, registers via wifi
*routes voice traffic via IP

CUMA-client for iPhone, (Cisco Mobile)
*similar products for windows mobile, nokia and blackberry
*requires cuma server
*does not route voice traffic via IP (calls route via PSTN)
*proprietary call control/information via SSL IP

The 2 products are a bit different in how they do what they do and take a
much different approach in how they do it.

CUMA has some pretty steep requirements as far as network, CUCM setup,
directory requirements and deployment. The Cisco Mobile 8.0 app has none of
these requirements.

Its better to think of Cisco Mobile 8.0 as Cisco Mobile lite.



On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:

> The 8.0 iPhone client doesn't know how to use a CUMA server as it only
> talks to CUCM directly.
> It does require you be wi-fi connected (either inside the network or using
> the vpn client).
>
> I don't support this product so have not been paying the closest attention
> but the FAQ looks pretty decent.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cumc/cisco_mobile/iPhone/8_0/FAQs/English/Cisco_Mobile_8_chapter1.html
>
> -Ryan
>
> On May 17, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Ted Nugent wrote:
>
> Correct me if i'm wrong and give me links if I am please. But with
> Cisco Mobile for the IPhone you don't need a server for On Premise dualmode
> but once you get out of 802.11x and go off prem you still do need CUMA to
> take advantage of everything you had in dual mode range (DVO, Presence, CUMC
> etc)... Correct? I have seen a ton of conflicting information about this but
> most everything that I have read supports that.... otherwise there appears
> to be magical link that gets you back when your off prem and I would like
> know how to conjure it...
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bill <bill at hitechconnection.net> wrote:
>
>>  Yes I know CUMA is the server, but with the Cisco Mobile for the Iphone
>> you don’t need the server. So my question still stands. I don’t like talking
>> to my account team. They just want to sell product. J
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff at cisco.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2010 8:55 AM
>> *To:* Bill
>> *Cc:* 'cisco-voip voyp list'
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco Mobile 8.0 / CUMA
>>
>>
>> Cisco Mobile is the client, CUMA is the server.  You should talk to your
>> account team for roadmap questions, or look for details with the release of
>> the 8.0 clients on other platforms.
>>
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>>
>> On May 17, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Bill wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>   So is Cisco Mobile the replacement for CUMA? Is CUMA EOL? If it is the
>> replacement is there any roadmap for the other phones such as windows mobile
>> and crackberries?
>>
>>
>>
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