[cisco-voip] Cisco Mobile 8.0 / CUMA

[Ed Leatherman]

Tim you are exactly right. It has had my head spinning, but this
thread has been helpful. I think if my SE did mention it, I was
probably already mixed up with them and assumed they were the same
thing.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Tim Frazee <tfrazee at gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that Cisco really messed up with this product. They have
> named 2 products with very, very similar names and very similar functions.
> This confusion I'm sure is farther than just what we see here on this list.
>
> Here is what I know about:
>
> Cisco Mobile 8.0 for iPhone:
> *SIP phone for iPhone, registers via wifi
> *routes voice traffic via IP
>
> CUMA-client for iPhone, (Cisco Mobile)
> *similar products for windows mobile, nokia and blackberry
> *requires cuma server
> *does not route voice traffic via IP (calls route via PSTN)
> *proprietary call control/information via SSL IP
>
> The 2 products are a bit different in how they do what they do and take a
> much different approach in how they do it.
>
> CUMA has some pretty steep requirements as far as network, CUCM setup,
> directory requirements and deployment. The Cisco Mobile 8.0 app has none of
> these requirements.
>
> Its better to think of Cisco Mobile 8.0 as Cisco Mobile lite.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>> The 8.0 iPhone client doesn't know how to use a CUMA server as it only
>> talks to CUCM directly.
>> It does require you be wi-fi connected (either inside the network or using
>> the vpn client).
>> I don't support this product so have not been paying the closest attention
>> but the FAQ looks pretty decent.
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cumc/cisco_mobile/iPhone/8_0/FAQs/English/Cisco_Mobile_8_chapter1.html
>> -Ryan
>> On May 17, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Ted Nugent wrote:
>>
>> Correct me if i'm wrong and give me links if I am please. But with
>> Cisco Mobile for the IPhone you don't need a server for On Premise dualmode
>> but once you get out of 802.11x and go off prem you still do need CUMA to
>> take advantage of everything you had in dual mode range (DVO, Presence, CUMC
>> etc)... Correct? I have seen a ton of conflicting information about this but
>> most everything that I have read supports that.... otherwise there appears
>> to be magical link that gets you back when your off prem and I would like
>> know how to conjure it...
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bill <bill at hitechconnection.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes I know CUMA is the server, but with the Cisco Mobile for the Iphone
>>> you don’t need the server. So my question still stands. I don’t like talking
>>> to my account team. They just want to sell product. J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff at cisco.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:55 AM
>>> To: Bill
>>> Cc: 'cisco-voip voyp list'
>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco Mobile 8.0 / CUMA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cisco Mobile is the client, CUMA is the server.  You should talk to your
>>> account team for roadmap questions, or look for details with the release of
>>> the 8.0 clients on other platforms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Bill wrote:
>>>
>>> So is Cisco Mobile the replacement for CUMA? Is CUMA EOL? If it is the
>>> replacement is there any roadmap for the other phones such as windows mobile
>>> and crackberries?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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