[cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
Wes Sisk
wsisk at cisco.com
Wed Oct 13 10:55:18 EDT 2010
specifically any phone from mfg after december of last year should
contain a newer load that avoids this issue. if you're pulling "NIB"
phones from a storage room or warehouse that are left overs from older
orders then you will still face 2 step upgrades.
/Wes
Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> Exactly and for Anthony's question it really depends on how new that
> NIB phone really is. All phones from manufacturing now are shipping
> with a load that will upgrade past 8.5(2) directly. That doesn't
> mean there aren't stocks out there with the old load but real new
> phones will upgrade.
>
> But as Lelio said in order for it to work you'd just have to factory
> reset the phone for it to double upgrade like that.
>
> Another option would be a vmware or other CUCM you keep handy just for
> pointing new phones at to get them to the correct load so they can be
> moved to production. All it would need is tftp and the appropriate
> load file.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> When I read the factory default action that Ryan sent off, it actually
> deletes some files I believe and/or re-reads that term42.default.load
> file.
>
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Anthony Holloway" <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com
> <mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
> *Cc: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com <mailto:rratliff at cisco.com>>,
> "voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 5:14:41 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
>
> Yes that is correct, NIB = new in box.
>
> Oh, Ok, so I NIB phone is NOT sitting at a "factory reset" state? I
> was under the impression that new phones, in the box, and from the
> factory, were exactly in the same state as a phone who was "factory
> reset."
>
> That's what I get for assuming.
>
> Anthony
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca
> <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>
> I'm assuming NIB is "new in box" ??
>
> I believe the one step you're missing here is resetting the phone
> to factory defaults so that it grabs the term42.default.loads file
> appropriately.
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Anthony Holloway" <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com
> <mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip at gmail.com>>
>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
> *Cc: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com
> <mailto:rratliff at cisco.com>>, "voyp list"
> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:48:35 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads &
> term62.default.loads
>
> Can I piggyback on this topic?
>
> So I take a NIB phone, and I plug it in, and it fails to upgrade
> because my CUCM has phones loads above 8.5(2). Are you saying
> that if I change out my default.loads files for 8.4(4) ones, I
> would eliminate the upgrade failure scenario of plugging in a NIB
> phone (which presumably ships with older than 8.4(4) firmware)?
>
> So the game plan looks like this:
> phone boots for first time
> dhcp address assigned, and option 150 points to tftp
> phone grabs the default.loads file, and reads which version is
> should pull down
> I go grab some five guys
> phone grabs firmware and begins to upgrade to 8.4(4)
> phone resets
> phone registers to CUCM, grabbing its XML config, and reads
> which version is should pull down
> phone grabs firmware and begins to upgrade to 8.5(3)
> phone resets
> phone registers
> I come back and see a registered phone
>
> Anthony
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca
> <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>
> Ah - cool. Never thought about that application.
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
> N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com
> <mailto:rratliff at cisco.com>>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca
> <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:21:39 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads &
> term62.default.loads
>
> That's correct, they will do two upgrades. In some cases this
> may be desired with the default load being 8.4(4) so that both
> old and new phones can upgrade easily to later loads given the
> restrictions for going past 8.5(2).
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> Thanks Ryan.
>
> I'm guessing then, if I don't update those files, and perform
> a factory reset, the phone will first load the previous
> version, try to register to call manager, see the new firmware
> information and then upgrade?
>
> So basically downgrade, then upgrade?
>
> I'm not saying I want to keep it this way, just trying to
> understand what will happen. I guess I could actually confirm
> the results by doing this myself too.
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
> N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com
> <mailto:rratliff at cisco.com>>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca
> <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:17:58 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads &
> term62.default.loads
>
> They are used to recover from a factory reset.
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/7962g_7942g/7_0/english/administration/guide/7962trb.html#wp1031705
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> ok...when are they used then? if i keep the originals from a
> previous version, copy over firmware files from a new version
> and update either the device defaults page or manually
> configure a phone is that ok?
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
> N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com
> <mailto:rratliff at cisco.com>>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca
> <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:16:31 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads &
> term62.default.loads
>
> They are never created, only copied either manually via zip
> file (windows CCM) or by the load installer.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
>
> can anyone shed some light on when i need to overwrite the
> term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads files when copying
> over firmware files?
>
> if i just copy over the firmware files and modify the device
> defaults on CCM, will it create these two files new?
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
> N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
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