[cisco-voip] Trying to understand partitions, calling and called transformations

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I don't think his problem is getting calls in Scott. At least I thought the
problem was using the correct Calling Line ID by use of the Calling Party
Transform Mask in the Route List Details.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:

> just like phones have CSS so does the Gateway.
>
> you have to have a CSS on the gateway that includes all the phone lines.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thats good to know.  I will have some DID's in the near future.
>>
>> I have one more question for you.  What is the process for getting
>> incoming calling to work?
>>
>> Sorry for all of the basic questions, I only have experience with CME, not
>> CUCM.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Dan.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > yep.
>> > do you just want the main number for Caller ID?  or do you want the DID
>> of
>> > each phone?
>> > if you want the DID then use the mask on the line and use the Check mark
>> on
>> > the RG to use the line mask.  Makes if really easy if the DID is OK.
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> With the transformation mask i'm trying to set the outgoing caller ID.
>> >>
>> >> Now it works and I think it makes more sense now.  I have a route
>> >> group with a route list assigned.  That route list has the
>> >> transformation mask I need.  That route list is assigned to the route
>> >> pattern and that route pattern is in the partition i created for that
>> >> location.  Then I created a calling search space and put that
>> >> partition in there and assigned that calling search space to one of
>> >> the phones.
>> >>
>> >> So I guess I need to create a separate set of route patterns for every
>> >> location, because each route pattern can only be in one partition.
>> >> For example I would need to create a separate route patter for every
>> >> location I have for 7 digit dialing, 10 digit dialing, etc...?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks this is making more sense now.
>> >>
>> >> Dan.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > The route pattern should have a partition.  the route pattern should
>> >> > point
>> >> > to the RL --> RG (get the transformation mask) --> VGW.
>> >> > Now I would use the CSS on the phone rather then just the DP CSS.  as
>> >> > more
>> >> > info as you move forward there is a CSS on both the phone device and
>> >> > Line.
>> >> >  The two combine to give you an over all CSS.
>> >> > What are you trying to do with your transformation mask?  is this to
>> >> > prefix
>> >> > going out?  or is this the caller ID going out?
>> >> > you can see on the voice gateway what it's doing going out by doing a
>> >> > debug
>> >> > isdn q931.  This might help in troubleshooting.
>> >> > Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman at gmail.com
>> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Its' starting to make sense.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So my goal here is to assign a different Calling Party Translation
>> >> >> Mask to the 3 different groups of phones I have.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1 - Create a route group (assign the gateway to this, as I only have
>> 1
>> >> >> gateway for everyone)
>> >> >> 2 - Create a route list (add the route group i just created, then
>> >> >> click on the route list details and assign the calling party
>> >> >> transformation mask (1015551234) )
>> >> >> 3 - Create a device pool for each location and assign the route
>> group
>> >> >> to the respective device pool (local route group option)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So if a device is assigned to the correct device pool, the calling
>> >> >> party transformation mask should apply accordingly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Only problem is it doesn't work.   Am I missing something?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Dan.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >  Dan--
>> >> >> > Think of Partitions as cups.  inside the cups you put phone lines
>> and
>> >> >> > Route
>> >> >> > patterns etc.  Think of Calling search spaces as the buckets that
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >> > the cups in them.
>> >> >> > If you have all your partitions in a single Calling Search Space
>> and
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > have access to use that CSS you will be able to call anything in
>> the
>> >> >> > bucket.
>> >> >> >  Meaning any cup (partition) with anything in them.
>> >> >> > Now take it a step further.  You Don't want them to call a
>> specific
>> >> >> > phone
>> >> >> > line.  you would put it in a partition that is not in the bucket
>> >> >> > (CSS).
>> >> >> >  Then if you have the CSS without the partition, you can no longer
>> >> >> > call
>> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> >  The same is true of route patterns, translation patterns, etc.
>> >> >> > Hope that helps.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Dan Letkeman <
>> danletkeman at gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hello,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm new to CUCM and I'm trying to understand how to configure
>> >> >> >> calling
>> >> >> >> and called transformations with partitions and device pools.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I currently have a cluster at the head office, with a PRI and
>> some
>> >> >> >> test phones connect.  I have three remote offices that will also
>> >> >> >> connect over fiber to the head office CUCM cluster, and will only
>> >> >> >> fail
>> >> >> >> over to SRST via there local router when the wan is down.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I need to  create some kind of group for each of the remote
>> offices
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> well as the main office, so when they are calling in and out of
>> the
>> >> >> >> PRI they have there own number assigned to there group of phones.
>> >> >> >> Just like they have it down with there individual PBX's.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have it working so far that I can call out of the PRI.  So I
>> have
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> small understanding of the route pattern's, route groups and
>> route
>> >> >> >> Lists.  I'm just not sure how I can apply a calling
>> transformation
>> >> >> >> mask to each of the locations, all while allowing them to call
>> each
>> >> >> >> other, and call in and out of the PRI.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Any help would be appreciated.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> Dan.
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