[cisco-voip] Trying to understand partitions, calling and called transformations

Thu Oct 21 17:19:22 EDT 2010

Oops, my bad...this is an active thread and I did not see his post about
incoming calls. Good call Scott!

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Mac GroupStudy <mac.groupstudy at gmail.com>wrote:

> I don't think his problem is getting calls in Scott. At least I thought the
> problem was using the correct Calling Line ID by use of the Calling Party
> Transform Mask in the Route List Details.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> just like phones have CSS so does the Gateway.
>>
>> you have to have a CSS on the gateway that includes all the phone lines.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Thats good to know.  I will have some DID's in the near future.
>>>
>>> I have one more question for you.  What is the process for getting
>>> incoming calling to work?
>>>
>>> Sorry for all of the basic questions, I only have experience with CME,
>>> not CUCM.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Dan.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > yep.
>>> > do you just want the main number for Caller ID?  or do you want the DID
>>> of
>>> > each phone?
>>> > if you want the DID then use the mask on the line and use the Check
>>> mark on
>>> > the RG to use the line mask.  Makes if really easy if the DID is OK.
>>> > Scott
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> With the transformation mask i'm trying to set the outgoing caller ID.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now it works and I think it makes more sense now.  I have a route
>>> >> group with a route list assigned.  That route list has the
>>> >> transformation mask I need.  That route list is assigned to the route
>>> >> pattern and that route pattern is in the partition i created for that
>>> >> location.  Then I created a calling search space and put that
>>> >> partition in there and assigned that calling search space to one of
>>> >> the phones.
>>> >>
>>> >> So I guess I need to create a separate set of route patterns for every
>>> >> location, because each route pattern can only be in one partition.
>>> >> For example I would need to create a separate route patter for every
>>> >> location I have for 7 digit dialing, 10 digit dialing, etc...?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks this is making more sense now.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dan.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > The route pattern should have a partition.  the route pattern should
>>> >> > point
>>> >> > to the RL --> RG (get the transformation mask) --> VGW.
>>> >> > Now I would use the CSS on the phone rather then just the DP CSS.
>>>  as
>>> >> > more
>>> >> > info as you move forward there is a CSS on both the phone device and
>>> >> > Line.
>>> >> >  The two combine to give you an over all CSS.
>>> >> > What are you trying to do with your transformation mask?  is this to
>>> >> > prefix
>>> >> > going out?  or is this the caller ID going out?
>>> >> > you can see on the voice gateway what it's doing going out by doing
>>> a
>>> >> > debug
>>> >> > isdn q931.  This might help in troubleshooting.
>>> >> > Scott
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Dan Letkeman <
>>> danletkeman at gmail.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Its' starting to make sense.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> So my goal here is to assign a different Calling Party Translation
>>> >> >> Mask to the 3 different groups of phones I have.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 1 - Create a route group (assign the gateway to this, as I only
>>> have 1
>>> >> >> gateway for everyone)
>>> >> >> 2 - Create a route list (add the route group i just created, then
>>> >> >> click on the route list details and assign the calling party
>>> >> >> transformation mask (1015551234) )
>>> >> >> 3 - Create a device pool for each location and assign the route
>>> group
>>> >> >> to the respective device pool (local route group option)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> So if a device is assigned to the correct device pool, the calling
>>> >> >> party transformation mask should apply accordingly.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Only problem is it doesn't work.   Am I missing something?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>> >> >> Dan.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >  Dan--
>>> >> >> > Think of Partitions as cups.  inside the cups you put phone lines
>>> and
>>> >> >> > Route
>>> >> >> > patterns etc.  Think of Calling search spaces as the buckets that
>>> >> >> > have
>>> >> >> > all
>>> >> >> > the cups in them.
>>> >> >> > If you have all your partitions in a single Calling Search Space
>>> and
>>> >> >> > you
>>> >> >> > have access to use that CSS you will be able to call anything in
>>> the
>>> >> >> > bucket.
>>> >> >> >  Meaning any cup (partition) with anything in them.
>>> >> >> > Now take it a step further.  You Don't want them to call a
>>> specific
>>> >> >> > phone
>>> >> >> > line.  you would put it in a partition that is not in the bucket
>>> >> >> > (CSS).
>>> >> >> >  Then if you have the CSS without the partition, you can no
>>> longer
>>> >> >> > call
>>> >> >> > it.
>>> >> >> >  The same is true of route patterns, translation patterns, etc.
>>> >> >> > Hope that helps.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Dan Letkeman <
>>> danletkeman at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Hello,
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I'm new to CUCM and I'm trying to understand how to configure
>>> >> >> >> calling
>>> >> >> >> and called transformations with partitions and device pools.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I currently have a cluster at the head office, with a PRI and
>>> some
>>> >> >> >> test phones connect.  I have three remote offices that will also
>>> >> >> >> connect over fiber to the head office CUCM cluster, and will
>>> only
>>> >> >> >> fail
>>> >> >> >> over to SRST via there local router when the wan is down.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I need to  create some kind of group for each of the remote
>>> offices
>>> >> >> >> as
>>> >> >> >> well as the main office, so when they are calling in and out of
>>> the
>>> >> >> >> PRI they have there own number assigned to there group of
>>> phones.
>>> >> >> >> Just like they have it down with there individual PBX's.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I have it working so far that I can call out of the PRI.  So I
>>> have
>>> >> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >> small understanding of the route pattern's, route groups and
>>> route
>>> >> >> >> Lists.  I'm just not sure how I can apply a calling
>>> transformation
>>> >> >> >> mask to each of the locations, all while allowing them to call
>>> each
>>> >> >> >> other, and call in and out of the PRI.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Any help would be appreciated.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>>> >> >> >> Dan.
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