[cisco-voip] how do calling party transformations work anyways?

Fri Dec 23 12:27:10 EST 2011

Haven't tried it on the GW, not sure I want to touch those. 

The fact that you can select the "external calling mask" makes me to believe that it is the devices calling party information it sends out that is affected. 

ugh. 

Will have to worry about this in the new year... 

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From: "paul dial" <dialp at ucar.edu> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] how do calling party transformations work anyways? 

Agreed, very confusing. They use the word "localize" in the Help-> This Page doc for phone configuration, which makes me believe its transforming the calling party that is displayed when someone calls this device. Does the transform work on the GW? 

paul 

On 12/23/2011 9:58 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: 

I guess that's the question, does this transformation transform the calling party mask this device uses to make outbound calls, or the calling party that is displayed when someone calls this device. 

So confusing. 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
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From: "paul dial" <dialp at ucar.edu> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
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Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 11:52:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] how do calling party transformations work anyways? 

I believe the Calling party transformation on the phone is used to localize the calling party number for an external call coming into your phone system. I'm guessing here, but I think you want to localize the calling number for an internal to external call, in which case you'd want to apply it on the GW. 

If the remote destination is still an IP phone under your control, then I think applying the transform to the phone would work. 

paul 

On 12/23/2011 9:23 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: 

Turns out you can apply it to the device (phone), but I can't seem to get it working. Not sure if my upstream configs are overwriting it or not though. 

I will have to do some more troubleshooting......ugh, I haven't looked at CallManager traces in forever. 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU) 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. 
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil) 

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From: "paul dial" <dialp at ucar.edu> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 11:20:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] how do calling party transformations work anyways? 

You can apply the calling party transformation on the Device Pool or (at least for MGCP GW) in the "Call Routing Information - Outbound Calls" section of the gateway configuration page. There might be other locations too, but I think you'd want to put it as close to the destination as possible, the idea being that if you have a different local calling number presentation standard (i.e. 7 vs 10 digits, etc) at your remote destinations, you can customize for each remote location. 

paul 

On 12/23/2011 8:43 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: 

sorry, i guess the question should read, where do i apply the CSS that contains the partition that contains the transformations. 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 10:42:22 AM 
Subject: [cisco-voip] how do calling party transformations work anyways? 

OK, still on this remote destination kick, trying to see how we can make things a bit better. 

I'd like to be able to display the extension on the remote destination rather than the external calling mask (which is the same for everybody). 

I was thinking of using a calling party transformation mask, but I can't seem to find where to apply the darn thing. If I have to create a transformation for each remote destination, I might be able to live with that, but I just wanna see it work for now. 

Going to CCO now.... 

Any ideas in the meantime? 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU) 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. 
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil) 

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