[cisco-voip] Cisco Spares for Phones
Ki Wi
kiwi.voice at gmail.com
Sat Jan 29 05:42:04 EST 2011
From my understanding as a vendor, you just need to buy a phone with part number contain 'spare' if you are on DLU based license or newer CCME which you need a separate license. Those part number with '=' will comes with paper license used for older 4.x environment however it is be very rare now. When we order direct from cisco, the '=' only part number isn't available anymore. So all customers who are still on 4.x are now 'excused' as the only option left is 'spare' to purchase the phone at cheaper price ('=' option is more ex as it comes with paper licnese) for them. This also means cisco had give up on paper license and migrate to DLU based for better license accounting purpose.
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On Jan 29, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
> Here is how i understand it:
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> The parts with = are the parts the distributors (techdata, comstor, ingram) keep in stock and sell, the parts without equals are the ones you purchase direct with cisco.
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> The spare naming seems to be just a legacy thing. Neither version is any different. The parts that still have licences are CP79XXG followed by a dash and some other abbreviation are only for CCME or 4.x installs. If you have 5.x or later you buy the parts with out the appended characters or with equal signs and then buy DLUS or UCL users as appropriate.
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> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] on behalf of Lelio Fulgenzi [lelio at uoguelph.ca]
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:35 PM
> To: David Zhars
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco Spares for Phones
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> DLU packs are purchased separately from phones now, they're not tied to any particular model. When you run out of DLUs, you buy more. The smallest DLU pack is 10, and the average phone takes 3 or 4, so you'll find yourself buying more DLUs.
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> Of course this all goes away with user based licensing.
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> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:28 PM, David Zhars <dzhars at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> That's what I thought and it made perfect sense in 4.x CM. There, phones had to be purchased with a license "built in", I guess. But again, with DLUs, if I bought a "spare",then I would lose some DLUs. is that it? It kind of makes sense, if you have spare DLUs, you can get a "spare", if you're short on DLUs, buy a "licensed" version....
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>> I will wait for others to weigh in. I'd like to think CDW knows how to quote this stuff, but a few times they've sold me stuff that was done up wrong!
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>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>> As far as I understand the "spare" part number, i.e. the one with the "=" at the end is purchasable without a license. The one without the equal sign must be purchased with a license. It's a software check that Cisco has. There is no difference in the products. I'm guessing they've moved from using the equal sign to the spare keyword.
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>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:39 PM, David Zhars <dzhars at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > With the advent of DLU licensing, I got more confused than ever with Cisco part numbering!
>> > Today, I asked CDW to quote me a 7965 with 7916. They quoted me a 7965-SPARE. What is the difference between the G and the Spare part numbers? If this is a brand new extension being added, does it have to be a G? I never understood the whole "spare" thing, maybe someone can help me to figure it out!
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>> > Thank you.
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>> > Dave
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