[cisco-voip] licensing question.......

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Thanks Don. I will have to follow up with our account team to see what is the proper process to migrate to user connect licensing. We are migrating from 4.1(3) to 7.1(5b)SU3 in the next few months and want to ensure we're on the right path. We've already discussed the ESSW strategy of user licensing, so I'm guessing it begins with that. 


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Weiner (dweiner)" <dweiner at cisco.com> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: "Brian Schultz" <bms314 at gmail.com>, "Scott Voll" <svoll.voip at gmail.com>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:14:42 AM 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] licensing question....... 




Here’s where I think much of the confusion comes from - there is no change in the software as regards licensing so you will still see the DLU pool in administration. You receive enough DLUs with each User Connect user license to cover the phone + mobility/snr DLUs, so the DLUs are not a factor. We did this to cover/”disable” the current enforcement in the software. The user-based model makes much more sense given all the new capabilities, and we didn’t want to wait to build licensing enforcement into the software before we rolled it out. It really is a good thing IMHO. 

Along with the user-based licensing we also included Unified Mobility (SNR) at no extra charge. This is with an upgrade or new installation – it makes no difference. There is also no longer a cost for server software – you can install as many servers in the cluster, of whatever type, you would like for redundancy and/or scalability (up to maximums of course). This is especially effective in CUCM 8.0 and 8.5 where you can run CUCM (and other UC apps) on VMware virtual machines (without loss of any scalability per server – one VMware CUCM virtual server can support the same number of users as an MCS-7845). The result is that you can add servers to the cluster without additional cost, apart from hardware (the server), and if you’re running Cisco UC on VMware and have spare capacity on your host machine maybe not even that (a Cisco C210M2 can run up to 4 virtual servers on one physical box). This is not only for CUCM but also Unity Connection (includes High Availability/active-active redundancy, voicemail/unified messaging, speech recognition, email notifications, IMAP access, etc. all included), Unified Presence, Emergency Responder and some other UC applications. 

So with CUCM 7.1(5) and later you use UCL user licenses or use CUWL user licenses (UC bundles) or both - mix & match between UCL and CUWL and use the license that makes sense for each individual user. 

hth, 

Don 





From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:37 PM 
To: Don Weiner (dweiner) 
Cc: Brian Schultz; Scott Voll; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] licensing question....... 




It is my understanding that this change is for _new_ installations of 7.1(5). Upgrades to 7.1(5) is still DLU based. 





I have 7.1(5) and there is nowhere as far as I can see for user based licensing. 







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