[cisco-voip] Restricted Vs. Unrestricted CUCM

[Norton, Mike]

Okay, I think I've got it. Restricted is only for "good" countries. But then back to my original question... why do the release notes say that it's the UNrestricted that has limited availability? It still sounds like a mistake to me or else I'm still missing something.

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Mike Norton
I.T. Support
Peace Wapiti School Division No. 76
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Direct: 780-831-3076

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From: Ahmed Elnagar [ahmed_elnagar at hotmail.com]
Sent: June-11-11 1:48 PM
To: 'Jason Aarons (AM)'; Norton, Mike; 'Chris Ward (chrward)'; 'Joe Martini (joemar2)'
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs. Unrestricted CUCM

I think even if you are not on the US non-friends countries, but the document defines certain group of “green countries” that no problem to sell restricted countries…for others “and I think Egypt is among them” you have to agree that you accept any sudden visit from a US government authority to check that you are using these encryption techniques in a way that will not harm US security…which is not accepted for a lot of customers from a confidential point of view “especially government sensitive authorities”

I don’t know how our sales/presales is dealing with that…anyway I don’t care I just install whatever is delivered to me :)

Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice
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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason Aarons (AM)
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs. Unrestricted CUCM

Re-reading my post I mean to type you should generally be using Restricted unless your country is on the bad guys list.

From: Norton, Mike [mailto:mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 2:43 PM
To: Jason Aarons (AM); Chris Ward (chrward); Joe Martini (joemar2)
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs. Unrestricted CUCM

Why would they really want everyone using unrestricted, if unrestricted is the version with no encryption technology?

I always thought it was:
restricted = only certain countries
unrestricted = all countries

????

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Mike Norton
I.T. Support
Peace Wapiti School Division No. 76
Helpdesk: 780-831-3080
Direct: 780-831-3076

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From: Jason Aarons (AM) [jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com]
Sent: June-11-11 5:01 AM
To: Norton, Mike; Chris Ward (chrward); Joe Martini (joemar2)
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs. Unrestricted CUCM

No. It’s a US State Department export rules on products with encryption. So the bad guys can’t use them.

Restricted means everyone but Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, Syria. Unrestricted means no encryption technology. Stuff that gets shipped has to be declared and follow import/export laws. US Citizens can get into trouble selling certain products to countries….

They really want every using unrestricted except those 4 countries…

http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/faq.html


From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]<mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]> On Behalf Of Norton, Mike
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM


So then – is this a mistake in the 8.6 release notes?

“The unrestricted version of Unified CM 8.6(1) is available in limited markets only.”
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/8_6_1/cucm-rel_notes-861.html#wp1945250

Based on what you’ve said, shouldn’t the release notes say that the *restricted* version is only in limited markets?

--
Mike Norton
I.T. Support
Peace Wapiti School Division No. 76
Helpdesk: 780-831-3080
Direct: 780-831-3076


From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]<mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]> On Behalf Of Chris Ward (chrward)
Sent: June-07-11 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM

And Ahmed, just for your edification, Restricted vs. Unrestricted has to do with export law. Certain security features built into CUCM can’t legally be exported to certain countries so we have a “Restricted” which includes these features, and an “Unrestricted” which doesn’t include the security features.

The titles just represent where the software can be shipped to.

+Chris
Hosted Collaboration Solution TME

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]<mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]> On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM

Thanks a lot Joe…
How silly that fixed in releases is all 8.6 and it is still in the beta window!!!

Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice
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From: Joe Martini [mailto:joemar2 at cisco.com]<mailto:[mailto:joemar2 at cisco.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 3:00 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM

The network services being blank is due to http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCtl82213.

Joe

On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Ahmed Elnagar wrote:

Then do you know why when I select control center > network services I found the below strange window

Where these services gone “CDR, security, backup and restore…etc?”

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From: cips [mailto:cisco at cips.nl]<mailto:[mailto:cisco at cips.nl]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:20 PM
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM

You should be able to see this when you logon to the ccmadmin page.

If it says nothing, it is a restricted version ;-)

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Subject: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM

Dear all;

I have a lab setup of CUCM 8.5 and I want to know if the install image is restricted or unrestricted…file name is not as it was copied…any command on CUCM to know this?


Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice
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