[cisco-voip] Telecom Guy vs Network Guy.....

[Fuermann, Jason]

The real question I would ask is what problems are the CSU/DSU identifying, and how? Can your VWIC and T-bert taps do everything they do? If I know telcom guys (and I've had my fair share of experience with them), the only reason the CSU/DSU's are there are because it's what they're familiar with. You just have to get them use to doing things a new/different way.

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason Aarons (US)
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:27 PM
To: Scott Voll; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Telecom Guy vs Network Guy.....

I haven't see a customer buy a managed CSU/DSU in 5 years....maybe if you have 512K frame relay and wanted a provider to be able to give your graphs they might sell you a managed CSU/DSU.

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Scott Voll
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:04 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Telecom Guy vs Network Guy.....

So my coworker and I have been having some discussions on best way to move forward (I'm the new Network Guy, He is the old Telecom guy ;-)

Currently we use managed CSU/DSU's for terminating our voice PRI's.  This way we can loop the circuit and test, etc.  we also have things wired to use the T-bert for more testing.

I would like to bypass this and go straight to the VWIC's on the Router.... making it cleaner and less to troubleshoot as we have had CSU's dieing lately.

I know I can loop the VWIC both local and remote.  Can I do more testing from the router that would justify the move away from managed CSU's?

Would love to hear what others are doing.

Thanks

Scott
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