[cisco-voip] Dependancy records in CM 8.6.2

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

ok, thanks for the clarification. 

dependency records FTW! 

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net, "Łukasz Pilatowski" <nimloth at nimloth.pl> 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:28:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Dependancy records in CM 8.6.2 

These particular dependency records were pulled back in 4.x so this is not a recent development nor is there any shift to dependency records going away in the future. 


-Ryan 


On Dec 13, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi < lelio at uoguelph.ca > wrote: 



Not sure about others, but dependency records and their function are a big help in troubleshooting and management. While some may be comfortable with SQL and building queries, if the system is truly meant to be an appliance, then this tool should continue to be developed, rather than removed. I understand that there will always be a need for command line queries and they're much more powerful, but building one of those things can be daunting, especially without a data dictionary and/or experience. 

I hope they stick around. If resources are an issue, perhaps there can be an enterprise parameter that says which server the queries run on and we can run them there. For example, I've got a TFTP server that sits there taking up space, I could either run the GUI on there or select that in a drop down. 

Just my two cents. 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU) 
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Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. 
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil) 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Ratliff" < rratliff at cisco.com > 
To: "Łukasz Pilatowski" < nimloth at nimloth.pl > 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:14:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Dependancy records in CM 8.6.2 

Looks like it's not a bug, but an intentional removal from back in the day when it caused problems (dependency records used to be quite the resource hog). 


The tables you want to look at are device and telecastersubscribedservice. 


-Ryan 


On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Łukasz Pilatowski < nimloth at nimloth.pl > wrote: 

It's bug in 8.6.2 - have same here. 

Cheers 

Dnia 2012-12-13 16:17 Scott Voll napisał(a): 

we have some ip phone services, and when we go to dependencies we have no records. I believe this is a bug but it shows fixed in 8.6.1.xxxxx so I would have thought it would not be in a 8.6.2 release. 

We will be opening a TAC case on that to confirm, but is there an SQL query we can do at the CLI that would show us what phones are subscribed to a particular ip phone service? 

Any help would be much appreciated. 

TIA 

Scott 
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