[cisco-voip] Unity/Unity Connection Port Upgrade

Wed Feb 29 11:31:40 EST 2012

Perhaps  due to the quantity of business we give to Cisco they are allowing
us to migrate at no cost but Ted is correct, there is a fee associated with
migrating to UCL.  I've found the listing in the configuration tool.

What bugs me about the whole 'migration cost' is you're effectively
re-purchasing licenses you already own.

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Ted Nugent <tednugent73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> As of UC 8.5 from a licensing stand point “Ala Carte” licensing is no more
> as Erick mentioned however is there is absolutely a fee associated with the
> migration to UCL. Currently that migration fee is $3 per Enhanced Seat
> providing you purchase 3 Years of UCSS at the same time @ $26 List, I
> believe that is a promotion so that may change in the future. You will not
> run into this until your UCSS renewal or until you’re UCSS/ESW lapses and
> you attempt to renew it. At which point you will need to select a licensing
> model (CUWL or UCL) in order to renew or reactivate UCSS. I would like a
> Cisco PM (if one watches this list) to jump in and give some insight on how
> renewals will be enforced? Our renewal department still appears to be
> pumping out UCSS renewals without requiring a licensing migration as
> outlined in the UCSS ordering guide, will that change?
>
>
>
> Those with access can see the “Ordering Guide for Cisco IP Communications
> 8.5, UCL-based” for more info about migration pricing. Migration SKUs start
> on page 31.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I've been going round and round about licensing with Cisco for a couple
>> months.  Here is what I have learned:
>>
>> 1. As of right now, except for version 7, there is no de-facto 'ala
>> carte' licensing.  It is now UCL.
>> 2. UCL user licenses come with the appropriate system licenses at no
>> additional cost.  CM node licenses, CUC port licenses, etc. are all
>> included in the purchase of UCL licenses for the coresponding system.
>> 3. There is no migration cost from ala carte to UCL as there is with CUWL.
>> 4. The simplification of Cisco's licensing has, in fact, made it more
>> confusing when migrating and upgrading.
>>
>>  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Ted Nugent <tednugent73 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Matthew
>>> Any idea when that changed for Ala Carte.. Recently? I attempted this
>>> during Unity to Unity Connection 8 Migration about 8 months ago and got
>>> shot down by licensing.  In normal migration fashion, I had to take the
>>> licensing from the Unity server, get the MAC changed for CUC, Upload to CUC
>>> and then install the Unity to CUC Migration License. After that i was
>>> sitting with 16 ports, I still had the Cisco licensing chick on the line
>>> and she flat out told me the system was only purchased with 16 ports and
>>> thats all the customer was entitled to, even made her get her team lead on
>>> the line with us and was told the same thing by him. My aggravation then
>>> was that the migration SKU even said in the discription Unity to Unity
>>> Connection 32 Ports but that meant nothing to licensing. I'm looking at an
>>> Ala Carte client in PUT right now with active UCSS I do not see any Max
>>> Ports SKUs like I see with CUWL. Curious....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Matthew Saskin <msaskin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> License model (CUWL or a la carte) doesn't matter.  For Unity
>>>> Connection, as far as I know, you can just request additional port licenses
>>>> if necessary from cisco licensing operations.
>>>>
>>>> -matthew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Ted Nugent <tednugent73 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know it was added for CUWL licensing but doubtful that it was for
>>>>> Ala Carte... (not sure about UCL)
>>>>> If you have CUWL you can order it via the PUT... UCXN7-MAXP-UWLADD and
>>>>> that should work for CUC 8 as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Matthew Loraditch <
>>>>> MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   I remember reading somewhere along the way that Unity/Unity
>>>>>> Connection licenses were changed to where everyone got all the ports needed
>>>>>> for free. The question I have is how do I get the ports added? The customer
>>>>>> has UCSS and we got the upgrade licenses but I still have just their
>>>>>> original 16 ports on their primary server. They got HA and the subscriber
>>>>>> now has 250 ports! Does anyone know the process for this? ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!****
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