[cisco-voip] Unity/Unity Connection Port Upgrade

Wed Feb 29 12:18:45 EST 2012

Agreed Lelio... renewal is a VERY gray area I would like to hear from Cisco
how they will be handling this and how they will be effectively forcing
people to pick a licensing platform if their UCSS does not expire.

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> This scares me a little... from what I understood, this 3+3 (currently a
> promo as I understand it as well) is for upgrading from one major version
> to another major version if you were not on UCSS.
>
> I can't imagine Cisco telling you at time of UCSS renewal you have to do
> this. If you let UCSS lapse, then yes, this will likely kick in.
>
> Lelio
>
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> *From: *"Erick Wellnitz" <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Ted Nugent" <tednugent73 at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"cisco-voip" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:31:40 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] Unity/Unity Connection Port Upgrade
>
> Perhaps  due to the quantity of business we give to Cisco they are
> allowing us to migrate at no cost but Ted is correct, there is a fee
> associated with migrating to UCL.  I've found the listing in the
> configuration tool.
>
> What bugs me about the whole 'migration cost' is you're effectively
> re-purchasing licenses you already own.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Ted Nugent <tednugent73 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> As of UC 8.5 from a licensing stand point “Ala Carte” licensing is no
>> more as Erick mentioned however is there is absolutely a fee associated
>> with the migration to UCL. Currently that migration fee is $3 per Enhanced
>> Seat providing you purchase 3 Years of UCSS at the same time @ $26 List, I
>> believe that is a promotion so that may change in the future. You will not
>> run into this until your UCSS renewal or until you’re UCSS/ESW lapses and
>> you attempt to renew it. At which point you will need to select a licensing
>> model (CUWL or UCL) in order to renew or reactivate UCSS. I would like a
>> Cisco PM (if one watches this list) to jump in and give some insight on how
>> renewals will be enforced? Our renewal department still appears to be
>> pumping out UCSS renewals without requiring a licensing migration as
>> outlined in the UCSS ordering guide, will that change?
>>
>>
>>
>> Those with access can see the “Ordering Guide for Cisco IP Communications
>> 8.5, UCL-based” for more info about migration pricing. Migration SKUs start
>> on page 31.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I've been going round and round about licensing with Cisco for a couple
>>> months.  Here is what I have learned:
>>>
>>> 1. As of right now, except for version 7, there is no de-facto 'ala
>>> carte' licensing.  It is now UCL.
>>> 2. UCL user licenses come with the appropriate system licenses at no
>>> additional cost.  CM node licenses, CUC port licenses, etc. are all
>>> included in the purchase of UCL licenses for the coresponding system.
>>> 3. There is no migration cost from ala carte to UCL as there is with
>>> CUWL.
>>> 4. The simplification of Cisco's licensing has, in fact, made it more
>>> confusing when migrating and upgrading.
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Ted Nugent <tednugent73 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matthew
>>>> Any idea when that changed for Ala Carte.. Recently? I attempted this
>>>> during Unity to Unity Connection 8 Migration about 8 months ago and got
>>>> shot down by licensing.  In normal migration fashion, I had to take the
>>>> licensing from the Unity server, get the MAC changed for CUC, Upload to CUC
>>>> and then install the Unity to CUC Migration License. After that i was
>>>> sitting with 16 ports, I still had the Cisco licensing chick on the line
>>>> and she flat out told me the system was only purchased with 16 ports and
>>>> thats all the customer was entitled to, even made her get her team lead on
>>>> the line with us and was told the same thing by him. My aggravation then
>>>> was that the migration SKU even said in the discription Unity to Unity
>>>> Connection 32 Ports but that meant nothing to licensing. I'm looking at an
>>>> Ala Carte client in PUT right now with active UCSS I do not see any Max
>>>> Ports SKUs like I see with CUWL. Curious....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Matthew Saskin <msaskin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> License model (CUWL or a la carte) doesn't matter.  For Unity
>>>>> Connection, as far as I know, you can just request additional port licenses
>>>>> if necessary from cisco licensing operations.
>>>>>
>>>>> -matthew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Ted Nugent <tednugent73 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it was added for CUWL licensing but doubtful that it was for
>>>>>> Ala Carte... (not sure about UCL)
>>>>>> If you have CUWL you can order it via the PUT... UCXN7-MAXP-UWLADD
>>>>>> and that should work for CUC 8 as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Matthew Loraditch <
>>>>>> MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I remember reading somewhere along the way that Unity/Unity
>>>>>>> Connection licenses were changed to where everyone got all the ports needed
>>>>>>> for free. The question I have is how do I get the ports added? The customer
>>>>>>> has UCSS and we got the upgrade licenses but I still have just their
>>>>>>> original 16 ports on their primary server. They got HA and the subscriber
>>>>>>> now has 250 ports! Does anyone know the process for this? ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!****
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