[cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware

Wed Jan 18 09:51:29 EST 2012

my question is how long is cisco going to mandate the UCS stuff before they
start supporting 3rd party hardware on VMWare....  we have a huge VM
deployment of HP but I have to tell our server team we have to buy Cisco
UCS products...... Doesn't make people very happy :-(

Scott

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM, gr11 <grccie at gmail.com> wrote:

> On C class you can use local as well as remote storage, it supports SAN
> boot installation.  I have done a mixed one on C series - VMware
> installation on internal disks but CUCM is installed on the SAN disks.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <John.VanLaecke at ghd.com> wrote:
>
>> C class internal storage, the b class external storage
>>
>> C class can support 4 UC apps per server
>>
>>
>>  From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> To: Matthew Saskin <
>> msaskin at gmail.com> Cc: "John.VanLaecke at ghd.com" <John.VanLaecke at ghd.com>,
>> "cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net" <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>,
>> cisco-voip <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> Date: 18/01/2012 11:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Quick question re: UCS, do you have to use remote storage or can you use
>> local storage?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saskin <*msaskin at gmail.com*<msaskin at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Depends on your discount, whether you purchase bare-metal from Cisco or
>> direct from HP/IBM, etc.  You've also got to factor in VMware costs plus
>> added operational complexity for UCS.  That said, ongoing operational costs
>> (eg; smartnet) are much lower for UCS than for bare-metal servers (and
>> on-par with direct manufacturer support for HP/IBM hardware)
>>
>> That said, I'm a huge proponent of deploying on UCS, b or c-series as
>> appropriate.  Of the 20-30 designs I've put together for customers over the
>> past 12-18 months (ranging from <500 phones to 10K+ phones and 1K+ UCCE
>> agents) that actually became deployed projects, all but 1 are deployed on
>> UCS with an exception for a customer that has a rigorous hardware
>> qualification process and won't qualify UCS for use in their data centers.
>>
>> -matthew
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM, <*John.VanLaecke at ghd.com*<John.VanLaecke at ghd.com>>
>> wrote:
>> The C Class UCS server is cheaper than the bare metal box.
>>
>>
>>   From: Lelio Fulgenzi <*lelio at uoguelph.ca* <lelio at uoguelph.ca>>  To: Erick
>> Wellnitz <*ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com* <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>>  Cc: cisco-voip
>> <*cisco-voip at puck.nether.net* <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>  Date: 18/01/2012
>> 07:16 AM  Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware  Sent by: *
>> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net* <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ah - well, supported and sold are two different things I guess.
>>
>> The supported platforms will help if you have the platforms already, but
>> not if you are looking to buy new. I do recall quite a few of them being
>> EOL'ed, especially the H series, but you'd have to check the price list and
>> your account team for availability.
>>
>> There is always the SWONLY option (which is much cheaper). As far as I
>> know, they are MCS equivalents so they are supported.
>>
>> Lelio
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>                             - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Erick Wellnitz" <*ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com*<ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
>> >*
>> To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <*lelio at uoguelph.ca* <lelio at uoguelph.ca>>*
>> Cc: *"cisco-voip" <*cisco-voip at puck.nether.net*<cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> >*
>> Sent: *Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:08:01 PM*
>> Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
>>
>> I'm getting conflicting information from someone at Cisco is all.
>> They told me they aren't selling MCS servers any longer.
>>
>>
>> On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <*lelio at uoguelph.ca* <lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
>> wrote:
>> > did it not provide the answers you were looking for? is it not up to
>> date?
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>> > - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Erick Wellnitz" <*ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com*<ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
>> >
>> > To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <*lelio at uoguelph.ca* <lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
>> > Cc: "cisco-voip" <*cisco-voip at puck.nether.net*<cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> >
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:32 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
>> >
>> > I've spent more time looking at that document than I care to think
>> about.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <*lelio at uoguelph.ca* <lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
>> wrote:
>> >> Pretty sure they are. Here are some ref docs
>> >>
>> >> *
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html
>> *<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> >> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> >> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
>> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>> >> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <*ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com*<ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >> To: "cisco-voip" <*cisco-voip at puck.nether.net*<cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> >
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:30:38 PM
>> >> Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
>> >>
>> >> Quick question as I think I've gone and confused myself.
>> >>
>> >> Are tehre still options wit hCM 8.6 for non-virtualized environments?
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