[cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
Tim Smith
tim.smith at enject.com.au
Mon Mar 17 18:56:44 EDT 2014
Hi John,
Thanks for the update.
I put this one on hold after the issues with the media, and the bug with the auto upgrade.
There is also an MR1 due shortly, that I probably want to get put on at the same time.
How many machines, how long did the bulk of the process take you?
Cheers,
Tim.
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of John Parduhn
Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2014 1:31 AM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
Following up with this thread, our upgrade from 1.5 to 2.0 went well. We went with the manual deployment, but copied the disk4 VMDK files from the old to upgraded systems using the CLI in ESXi instead of through vCenter. Overall, the documentation is accurate. We had an issue with the license file migration, but a call into TAC remedied it. Good luck to anyone else out there performing the update in the near future.
John
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Tim Smith <tim.smith at enject.com.au<mailto:tim.smith at enject.com.au>> wrote:
Think I can see where things have gone wrong with OVA vs USB img.
I ordered both e-delivery and physical media just to be safe, and to give the guys on site a physical copy of media for DR purposes.
E-delivery order gave me the USB IMG file (it should have been the OVA)
Physical order came via E-delivery as well - it gives me opportunity to download USB IMG file.
Need to see if they have also shipped the physical USB key for me!
Either way as previously noted, it looks like these first versions of OVA have problems with Automatic installs. Makes me want to wait for fixed version.
Cheers,
Tim
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of Tim Smith
Sent: Friday, 28 February 2014 11:56 PM
To: Eric Pedersen
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
Hey mate,
I ended up with the AE version on one of my orders.
The other order was the USB IMG fail.
A couple of things I worked out about orders, upgrades and licensing scenarios..
Order CWMS as add on to existing CUWL
- You don't have MP or CWMS deployed
- You've got CUWL PRO so you are entitled to get it
- Unless you are lucky enough to be surrounded by spare UCS, you'll probably need to order new hardware
- When you do this - you should order the parts for CUWL add on users - part number should be L-WBXMTSVR1-UWLA (I assume 0 cost)
- You can skip A2Q process in this case
Migrate from MeetingPlace to CWMS
- You've got MP installed
- Order this guy through PUT - R-MP-WMS-MIG-K9=
Upgrade from CWMS 1.x to 2.x
- You've got CWMS 1.x installed
- Order this guy through PUT - WMS2-UPG-K9=
- I had to log PUT support case to get this part number to show up for me
Haven't worried too much about getting the actual licenses yet though (just made sure I've got the right order in and got the media)
For last two scenarios I believe we are supposed to go to portal and do re-host as described in here
https://www.cisco.com/web/fw/tools/swift/ui/PDF/CiscoLicensingPortalChanges.pdf
Worst case we should get the 180 days eval, and you can just open licensing case with SO number. If you've ordered the right part for your scenario, then this will be an easier process.
Cheers,
Tim
From: Eric Pedersen [mailto:PedersenE at bennettjones.com]
Sent: Friday, 28 February 2014 2:46 AM
To: Tim Smith; John Parduhn
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
Tim, were you able to get the OVA with encryption or are you using the AU ova? Did you get updated licenses for 2.0?
Thanks for sharing your experiences with us. It's a big help!
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Tim Smith
Sent: 26 February 2014 8:14 PM
To: John Parduhn
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
Apologies to the list for bombardment of CWMS info today!
Update we have so far, is to hold off a little bit. Some early reports of upgrade issues.
We have a great TAC engineer, and he's going to download and run through process, for both verifying the steps and checking that we end up with working system.
He'll let us know results.
Also, I checked in on one of my other orders and we had received the USB IMG file as well.
Cheers,
Tim
From: John Parduhn [mailto:parduhn at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2014 12:06 PM
To: Tim Smith
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
Hey Tim, thanks for the response. I was reading the documentation after I sent the thread that last email, and it's exactly what I received when I was working with Cisco on the 2.0 EFT. I have CWMS running HA on four different C460-M2 servers, so I can't see the automatic upgrade even being an option. I'm even more perplexed when it comes to the manual option and having to modify the VMX files. It just seems a little too easy in my opinion. I need to do it though to address a lot of the concerns my recently deployed system has presented end users. I'm scheduled to upgrade on 3/15, so if you can provide any post-update information to me directly, I would really appreciate your feedback. Good luck!
John Parduhn
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On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Tim Smith <tim.smith at enject.com.au<mailto:tim.smith at enject.com.au>> wrote:
Hey mate,
I have this very same question outstanding with TAC right now.
I think the documentation is pretty slim in this regard.
The upgrade info is in the CWMS Admin guide for 2.0 (and 1.5) I believe.
But it is basically just a list of high level steps.
It does say in that section that it will point to the relevant detail in the other sections, but it doesn't really do that in my opinion.
I've spent a bit of time reading through and I've sent my interpretation of the process to TAC and asked them to confirm and fill in the blanks.
My high level plan.. (assuming automatic)
- Clone the existing VM's for backup
- Start OVA deployment for new admin machine
- There should be an auto upgrade machine type in the wizard - i.e. 800 users auto upgrade
- Deploy the relevant machine (with a new temp IP address)
- Fire up the new machine - and I believe there will be an upgrade wizard in here
- You'll feed in the existing admin machine IP and user / password
- You'll feed in the Vcenter admin credentials
- It will start deploying new machines for you (they have a new suffix with date / time stamp)
- At some point here, old system goes into maintenance, and new one beings upgrade procedure - i.e. powers on machines and copies DB across
- You should be able to access admin machine on old IP (but it should be the upgraded system)
- You should be able to clean up the old VM's in Vcenter.
As I say that's just my speculation. It's got to be close to that.
I have an upgrade booked in for next weekend.
Happy to post back results when I get my answers! (and hopefully BU will also update the docs too)
Kind Regards,
Tim Smith
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of John Parduhn
Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2014 8:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
I have the EN OVA file, but I have not successfully located the most current upgrade documentation for CWMS 1.5 to 2.0. I'm aware of the automatic versus manual processes, but I would like something definitive. Can anyone on this thread provide a link to this information? Thanks in advance!
John Parduhn
Huron Consulting Group
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On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Tim Smith <tim.smith at enject.com.au<mailto:tim.smith at enject.com.au>> wrote:
Hi Eric
It might be worth waiting for media.
2.0 upgrade requires you to re deploy all the Ovas completely anyway. Either automatic or manual, but either way very similar effort to complete fresh install.
Cheers,
Tim
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On 27 Feb 2014, at 8:07 am, "Eric Pedersen" <PedersenE at bennettjones.com<mailto:PedersenE at bennettjones.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the info Adam. I'll go with a 1.5 install and upgrade after.
From: Adam Blomfield [mailto:adman at adman.net]
Sent: 26 February 2014 10:39 AM
To: Eric Pedersen
Cc: Tim Smith; Andy; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
I also got the AU image rather than the AE even though I ordered the SKU from PUT for encrypted audio. I contacted e-delivery support and they just replied back that they are looking into it. I did not receive any license PAKs either. I think the user piece is referring migrations from MP to CWMS. Before I could hit send I got another email from Cisco e-delivery support confirming that the image being included in the PUT orders in incorrect and that they will need to modify the BOM. They are putting all orders on NPH until this is resolved.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Eric Pedersen <PedersenE at bennettjones.com<mailto:PedersenE at bennettjones.com>> wrote:
Thanks Erik and Tim for the tip on the image file. I mounted the img file in a Linux VM and it turns out to be an NTFS image containing the OVA. Strange that eDelivery didn't just give me the OVA... It still doesn't seem quite right though because I ordered the standard encryption SKU but got the AU OVA. The OVA file name is "cisco-webex-meetings-server-2.0.1.2.B-AU.ova". Is that what you have?
What about licenses? I didn't get a PAK with eDeliery and one of the PDFs from eDelivery said that I need to order WBXMTSVR2-USR-K9= for that but I didn't see that SKU in PUT.
Thanks,
Eric
From: Tim Smith [mailto:tim.smith at enject.com.au<mailto:tim.smith at enject.com.au>]
Sent: 26 February 2014 4:20 AM
To: Andy; Eric Pedersen; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
Hey mate,
It should be an OVA.
Install and upgrade for that matter are both through deploying OVA via VCenter.
I'm thinking they may have messed up your order.
I have one download and it is 10 gig single OVA file.
Just downloading another one now, and readme says that's an OVA too.
Cheers,
Tim.
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 9:36 PM
To: Eric Pedersen; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] WebEx Meetings Server 2.0 OVA
Erik,
Its like a .iso file so you would need to mount it with an application such as ImgBurn or just extract it using winrar or 7-zip.
It might be quite big as the 1.5.1.6 was 10Gb in size
Regards
Andy
On 25/02/2014 18:12, Eric Pedersen wrote:
I ordered WebEx Meeting Server 2.0 from PUT and eDelivery provided a usb.img file. I want to do a fresh install though so I think I need an OVA. Does anyone know how to get the OVA, or can I do an install with this usb.img file?
Thanks,
Eric
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