[cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?

Lelio Fulgenzi lelio at uoguelph.ca
Tue Nov 25 21:28:15 EST 2014


Fair enough. I know that with SNR you need to associate both the hard phone and remote destination profile to the same userid to make things work. 

I'm wondering what the differences would be with both devices configured configured as anonymous. I'm guessing 'remotely' controlling the hard phone with the soft clients is out. 

I could always try for a short period of time and be out of compliance. 

Thanks everyone. 

Lelio


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> On Nov 25, 2014, at 3:47 PM, "NateCCIE" <nateccie at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Licensing and making things work are completely separate.  So as long as you leave the device anonymous/public space a user will not move up to the higher tier of licensing.
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> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:13 PM
> To: NateCCIE
> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?
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> If they take up an enhanced license, I'm ok with that. We have enough to go around for now. 
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> My concern is if, after pairing a hard phone and a jabber client to the same userID, the system wants to use an enhanced plus license. I don't have any if those and I'm not keen on operating in non-compliance mode. 
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> Comments on that?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "NateCCIE" <nateccie at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Nope.  Each Jabber softphone client will use its own enhanced license, so if a user want Jabber on a PC/MAC and on a iPhone, that is 3 enhanced licenses including one deskphone.  Just like CIPC.
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> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:14 AM
> To: NateCCIE
> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?
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> Thanks for clearing that up. It's good to know that some platforms don't support phone only mode. 
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> We have Enhanced licenses, not Enhanced Plus, I'm hoping that each user can have at least one Jabber instance. I'm also hoping that I don't need enhanced plus for users to have multiple jabber instances. 
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> According to this, it looks like I'm set:
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> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/product_solution_overview0900aecd806cc7a4.html
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> Lelio
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:37 PM, NateCCIE <nateccie at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Your looking for Jabber Phone mode.
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> Some clients support it some don't. I believe we're still waiting for Mac phone mode.
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> Normally when you say jabber for everyone your talking about free im&p with no softphone. Softphone is always licensed.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 25, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> I know I have a lot of reading and catching up to do, but I'm wondering if it's possible to deploy Jabber across our organization (even if just for a small pilot) without an IM/presence installation?
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> If possible, what do I lose? I'm assuming the obvious presence modality options are not available, but are there others?
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> Would I simply be deploying Jabber as a soft phone client? I'm looking at deploying these for desktops and mobile devices.
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> On a side note: Do they even make a soft phone any more, ie IP Communicator?
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> Thanks.
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