[cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?

[NateCCIE]

Device control is still based on device association, not owner userid. 

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> On Nov 25, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> Fair enough. I know that with SNR you need to associate both the hard phone and remote destination profile to the same userid to make things work. 
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> I'm wondering what the differences would be with both devices configured configured as anonymous. I'm guessing 'remotely' controlling the hard phone with the soft clients is out. 
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> I could always try for a short period of time and be out of compliance. 
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> Thanks everyone. 
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> Lelio
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>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 3:47 PM, "NateCCIE" <nateccie at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Licensing and making things work are completely separate.  So as long as you leave the device anonymous/public space a user will not move up to the higher tier of licensing.
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>> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:13 PM
>> To: NateCCIE
>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?
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>> If they take up an enhanced license, I'm ok with that. We have enough to go around for now. 
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>> My concern is if, after pairing a hard phone and a jabber client to the same userID, the system wants to use an enhanced plus license. I don't have any if those and I'm not keen on operating in non-compliance mode. 
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>> Comments on that?
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "NateCCIE" <nateccie at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Nope.  Each Jabber softphone client will use its own enhanced license, so if a user want Jabber on a PC/MAC and on a iPhone, that is 3 enhanced licenses including one deskphone.  Just like CIPC.
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>> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:14 AM
>> To: NateCCIE
>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber (Everyone) without IM/Presence ?
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>> Thanks for clearing that up. It's good to know that some platforms don't support phone only mode. 
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>> We have Enhanced licenses, not Enhanced Plus, I'm hoping that each user can have at least one Jabber instance. I'm also hoping that I don't need enhanced plus for users to have multiple jabber instances. 
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>> According to this, it looks like I'm set:
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>> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/product_solution_overview0900aecd806cc7a4.html
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>> Lelio
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:37 PM, NateCCIE <nateccie at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Your looking for Jabber Phone mode.
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>> Some clients support it some don't. I believe we're still waiting for Mac phone mode.
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>> Normally when you say jabber for everyone your talking about free im&p with no softphone. Softphone is always licensed.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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>> I know I have a lot of reading and catching up to do, but I'm wondering if it's possible to deploy Jabber across our organization (even if just for a small pilot) without an IM/presence installation?
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>> If possible, what do I lose? I'm assuming the obvious presence modality options are not available, but are there others?
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>> Would I simply be deploying Jabber as a soft phone client? I'm looking at deploying these for desktops and mobile devices.
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>> On a side note: Do they even make a soft phone any more, ie IP Communicator?
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>> Thanks.
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