[cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT

[Erick Wellnitz]

CER needs to be ale to call (for PSAP callback) the DNs on profiles as well
as the DNs on phones so reusing DNs, even in a different partition, isn't
going to work.

If there is no need for PSAP callback then reuse away.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:

>  You can reuse DN’s in unique partitions. What about just a garbage
> partition that every phone auto registers into? Give them a CSS that can
> only dial the local help desk and 911.
>
>  Poing being- when you use a discrete partition for it you can use or
> reuse any DN’s without creating conflicts. None of your CTI apps or CSS
> would need to work with this partition.
>
>  -Wes
>
>  On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  OK I get the picture.......
>
>  So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on
> all 1300 phones?  If so, how does CER work?  will the PSAP call back the
> line or does it call back the phone?
>
>  I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID
> numbers so have a very limited amount to use.
>
>  TIA
>
>  Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.
>>
>>  Give the phones DN’s, even just internal DN’s. It is “burning a DN” in
>> the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID.
>> Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR’s to a help desk. Or at least allow
>> them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.
>>
>>  -Wes
>>
>>  On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision
>> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the
>> nearest logged out phone.  There could also be legal issues but I'm not a
>> lawyer so take that for what you will.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That's a "Yes" for my experiences.  The logout profile or default state
>>> of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS
>>> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in
>>> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?
>>>> Burning two DN's?  one for the user and one for every phone?
>>>>
>>>>  scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
>>>> rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.
>>>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of
>>>>> somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting
>>>>> dialtone.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>>>>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Scott,
>>>>>
>>>>>  SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones
>>>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability
>>>>> of 911.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Here's one option without knowing your environment design or
>>>>> limitations:  Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
>>>>> rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines
>>>>>> on all the phones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> scott
>>>>>>
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