[cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT

[Scott Voll]

I loved the idea of the garbage partition, but we do have CER......and I
only want 911 to work.  So now what?

Scott


On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
wrote:

> CER needs to be ale to call (for PSAP callback) the DNs on profiles as
> well as the DNs on phones so reusing DNs, even in a different partition,
> isn't going to work.
>
> If there is no need for PSAP callback then reuse away.
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <wsisk at cisco.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  You can reuse DN’s in unique partitions. What about just a garbage
>> partition that every phone auto registers into? Give them a CSS that can
>> only dial the local help desk and 911.
>>
>>  Poing being- when you use a discrete partition for it you can use or
>> reuse any DN’s without creating conflicts. None of your CTI apps or CSS
>> would need to work with this partition.
>>
>>  -Wes
>>
>>  On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  OK I get the picture.......
>>
>>  So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on
>> all 1300 phones?  If so, how does CER work?  will the PSAP call back the
>> line or does it call back the phone?
>>
>>  I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID
>> numbers so have a very limited amount to use.
>>
>>  TIA
>>
>>  Scott
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <wsisk at cisco.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.
>>>
>>>  Give the phones DN’s, even just internal DN’s. It is “burning a DN” in
>>> the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID.
>>> Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR’s to a help desk. Or at least allow
>>> them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.
>>>
>>>  -Wes
>>>
>>>  On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision
>>> if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the
>>> nearest logged out phone.  There could also be legal issues but I'm not a
>>> lawyer so take that for what you will.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's a "Yes" for my experiences.  The logout profile or default state
>>>> of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS
>>>> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in
>>>> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?
>>>>> Burning two DN's?  one for the user and one for every phone?
>>>>>
>>>>>  scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
>>>>> rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.
>>>>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of
>>>>>> somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting
>>>>>> dialtone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>>>>>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Scott,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones
>>>>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability
>>>>>> of 911.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Here's one option without knowing your environment design or
>>>>>> limitations:  Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
>>>>>> rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines
>>>>>>> on all the phones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scott
>>>>>>>
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