[cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT

Thu Oct 30 14:38:16 EDT 2014

How big of a range do you have available?

You could use something like this:

If you have a range of 100 DIDs available, say 43XX you could reserve that
and use 43XXXX for your garbage partition.  That eliminates overlap.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:

> I loved the idea of the garbage partition, but we do have CER......and I
> only want 911 to work.  So now what?
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> CER needs to be ale to call (for PSAP callback) the DNs on profiles as
>> well as the DNs on phones so reusing DNs, even in a different partition,
>> isn't going to work.
>>
>> If there is no need for PSAP callback then reuse away.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <wsisk at cisco.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  You can reuse DN’s in unique partitions. What about just a garbage
>>> partition that every phone auto registers into? Give them a CSS that can
>>> only dial the local help desk and 911.
>>>
>>>  Poing being- when you use a discrete partition for it you can use or
>>> reuse any DN’s without creating conflicts. None of your CTI apps or CSS
>>> would need to work with this partition.
>>>
>>>  -Wes
>>>
>>>  On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  OK I get the picture.......
>>>
>>>  So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line
>>> on all 1300 phones?  If so, how does CER work?  will the PSAP call back the
>>> line or does it call back the phone?
>>>
>>>  I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non
>>> DID numbers so have a very limited amount to use.
>>>
>>>  TIA
>>>
>>>  Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) <wsisk at cisco.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick.
>>>>
>>>>  Give the phones DN’s, even just internal DN’s. It is “burning a DN”
>>>> in the sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a
>>>> DID. Give the phones/lines a CSS that PLAR’s to a help desk. Or at least
>>>> allow them to invoke local emergency services - private or public.
>>>>
>>>>  -Wes
>>>>
>>>>  On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering
>>>> decision if someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the
>>>> nearest logged out phone.  There could also be legal issues but I'm not a
>>>> lawyer so take that for what you will.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>>>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a "Yes" for my experiences.  The logout profile or default
>>>>> state of the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a
>>>>> CSS restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in
>>>>> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?
>>>>>> Burning two DN's?  one for the user and one for every phone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
>>>>>> rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.
>>>>>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of
>>>>>>> somebody picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting
>>>>>>> dialtone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>>>>>>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Scott,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want
>>>>>>> phones laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the
>>>>>>> reliability of 911.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Here's one option without knowing your environment design or
>>>>>>> limitations:  Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
>>>>>>> rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Ryan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the
>>>>>>>> lines on all the phones
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> scott
>>>>>>>>
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