[cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT

[Josh Warcop]

Negative. A corporation is not required to offer 911 services to the internal PBX connected phones. The business pays the 911 access fees via their bill but that doesn't have to translate to an internally built system. The ACTUAL problem is that in states with E911 legislation is you'll get a very very very hefty bill from emergency services if they dispatch and you didn't tell them what building, floor, aisle, and cube they should respond to. Legally is one thing but it quickly becomes if you want to pay that fine for NOT having E911. If you don't have emergency responder be prepared to add it soon as many states are adding more E911 laws.

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From: Erick Wellnitz<mailto:ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
Sent: ‎10/‎29/‎2014 4:47 PM
To: Anthony Holloway<mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT

Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision if
someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the nearest logged
out phone.  There could also be legal issues but I'm not a lawyer so take
that for what you will.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway <
avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's a "Yes" for my experiences.  The logout profile or default state of
> the phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS
> restriction for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in
> most cases, nonDID in a few cases (with typical CSS).
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment?
>> Burning two DN's?  one for the user and one for every phone?
>>
>> scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
>> rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony.
>>> I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody
>>> picking up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone.
>>>
>>> -Ryan
>>>
>>>  On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Scott,
>>>
>>>  SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones
>>> laying about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability
>>> of 911.
>>>
>>>  Here's one option without knowing your environment design or
>>> limitations:  Setup Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
>>> rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line.
>>>>
>>>> -Ryan
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones?
>>>>
>>>> we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on
>>>> all the phones
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> scott
>>>>
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