[cisco-voip] Does Cisco Jabber (windrows) Conflict with MS Lync

Tue Feb 16 16:21:41 EST 2016

All the more reason to upgrade....I kid, but not really.

Actually, the current CCIE Collab is based on that same version, if memory
serves, so knowing it to some degree is important, but not anymore for me.
;)

Anyway, the Services Domain is simply where Jabber will query for SRV
records, it does not have to match the IM chat domain.  As long as the SRV
records can be found, you're good to go.

I think the ultimate deployment scenario is when the services domain
matches the IM chat domain and both of them match the mail domain.  This
way, as an end user, I don't have to know three URIs:

aholloway at chat.company.com
aholloway at myphone.company.com
aholloway at company.com

I would strive to make them all the same, so it's a unified experience
across the board.  I'm not saying you're doing three domains, I'm using
that as a worst case scenario.  You might have combined your IM chat domain
with your mail domain, and they match, leaving only your services domain
out in the wind.

I think I'm about to start digging myself in to a hole here, so I better
watch out where I take this conversation.  Deployment strategies, multiple
domains, legacy versions, volunteering, murky waters, and all that.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

>
> Interesting... I'm running 9.1.1...
>
>
>    - I don't have Advanced Configuration > IM Address Scheme option.
>    - And under System > Cluster Topology > All Assigned Users, I don't
>    have the IM address column.
>
>
> That being said, I just right clicked on a contact and viewed the profile.
> The IM address does not include the services domain I configured. I'm
> guessing because Directory URI is an option only introduced in v10, it's
> either taking my "Mail ID" or it's building it from the userID and the
> default presence domain I configured in the .xml file.
>
> I'll have to take another look at my default calling behaviour.
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
> Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
> University of Guelph
>
> 519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354
> lelio at uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
> Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Anthony Holloway" <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc: *"Benjamin Kenneally" <benjamin at kenneally.me>,
> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:06:51 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] Does Cisco Jabber (windrows) Conflict with MS
> Lync
>
>
> Your JID is made up from whatever is configured in IM&P under Presence >
> Settings > Advanced Configuration > IM address scheme
>
> You can see what everyone is already provisioned for in IM&P under System
> > Presence Topology > All Assigned Users, and then look at the column
> labeled IM Address.
>
> I don't know anything about Office 365 and Presence integrations, sorry.
>
> I don't for certain about default destinations in the Jabber client, but I
> can tell you that if you hover over the contact, to get the contact card to
> show, you can one click call them.  It looks like in my environment it's
> choosing the Directory URI over the DN.  This wouldn't be the first time
> Directory URI takes precedence over DN.  It does that in Phone Only Mode,
> and shows up under your name at the top, where it would normally show your
> status.
>
>
>
> Multiple Ways to Call (Directory URI and DN)
>
> [image: Inline image 2]
>
>
>
> Contact Card One Click Default Call Option (Directory URI) *Note there is
> a left and right section of this green call button.  The left side is the
> one click, while the right side is a selection.
>
> [image: Inline image 3]
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this.
>>
>> I've decided to use a different domain for the  services discovery for
>> the time being, eg myphone.acme.ca because I may not be able to prevent
>> WebEx registration.
>>
>> SMTP userIDs in my AD are userid at acme.ca
>>
>> I don't believe I have a proxyAddress configured. Or if I actually need
>> one. We'll be moving to Office365 over the summer.
>>
>> Should I be worrying about this?
>>
>> What would my JID be in this case?
>>
>> userID at myphone.acme.ca -or- userID at acme.ca   ?
>>
>> Does this have anything to do with the fact that whenever I want to dial
>> someone from my contacts I have to select from a list? I'd like to be able
>> to just dial from contacts. A default destination for example.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Great tip Benjamin!
>>
>> Along the sames lines, if you *do* want Jabber to take over the Office
>> integration, you will need to add to the AD attribute proxyAddresses, the
>> following format: SIP:JID
>>
>> E.g., if my JID was aholloway at company.com, then my entry would be
>> SIP:aholloway at company.com
>>
>> You may even end up with two or more proxyAddresses, depending on what
>> else you are doing in AD.  I.e., SMTP:aholloway at company.com  The good
>> news is, this is a list of addresses, and you can have multiple entries.
>>
>> There's actually a tool in the Jabber Admin ZIP file to help you bulk
>> update your AD users to include this SIP proxyAddresses value.  You run it
>> from a domain controller, and it's a GUI wizard that will generate an
>> import file, and then import the file back in.  It defaults to
>> SIP:smtpaddress, so if you JID != SMTPAddress, then you'll need to modify
>> the import file, and manually import it another way.  The LDIF file
>> format is standard
>> <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727091.aspx#ECAA>.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Benjamin Kenneally <
>> benjamin at kenneally.me> wrote:
>>
>>> Lync and Jabber share a large number of resources and registry settings.
>>> If you want Lync to maintain control of all the MS Office integration
>>> (you're running Jabber phone only, as an example), install Jabber with the
>>> flags
>>>
>>> msiexec.exe CLEAR=1 /i CIscoJabberSetup.msi CLICK2X=DISABLE
>>>
>>> and you should be set. This causes it to install without overwriting any
>>> of those registry settings, including click to call.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Benjamin Kenneally
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:40 PM Nazar Shabour <nizarshabour at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dears,
>>>>
>>>> I found that when  Ms Lync  is working fine with outlook and reflecting
>>>> all the IM status OK and then you install Jabber ,the sync is disturbed ,Is
>>>> that due to the fact that Jabber overwrites the linkage to MS office and
>>>> conflicts with Lync? any such experiences /opinions.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AbuALneez
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> cisco-voip mailing list
>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cisco-voip mailing list
>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-voip mailing list
>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>>
>>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-voip/attachments/20160216/aabc7ba2/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 26468 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-voip/attachments/20160216/aabc7ba2/attachment.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 41871 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-voip/attachments/20160216/aabc7ba2/attachment-0001.png>