[cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error

Wed Oct 5 07:27:14 EDT 2016

Cheers Ryan,

In the mean time I got the Nortel to change to Master which has resolved my issue.

But just so I'm clear for the future. The E1 module I have is a NIM-2MF-T1E1-E1 and to only be used for voice. Am I right in saying the 4331 can never be master in this scenario?

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanhuff at outlook.com]
Sent: 05 October 2016 12:07
To: Russell Chaseling <rchaseling at plannet21.ie>
Cc: Brian V <bvanbens at gmail.com>; NateCCIE <nateccie at gmail.com>; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error

Check out step 7 under the, "configuring the t1/e1 network interface module for data support" at http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/interfaces/NIM/software/configuration/guide/4gen-t1-e1-nim-guide.html#con_1128175

"clock source {internal | line [primary | secondary] | network}

Specifies the clock source. The options are as follows:
*         internal-Sets the controller framer as the clock master.

The clock source internal command is only applicable with the channel-group command and the pri-group(for data) command.
Note

The pri-groupcommand is supported on the NIM-xCE1T1-PRI for data without the keyword voice-dsp."

Hope this helps,

-Ryan

On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Russell Chaseling <rchaseling at plannet21.ie<mailto:rchaseling at plannet21.ie>> wrote:
Hi Ryan,

I take it channel-group for data only? Sorry never used it before

Thx

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanhuff at outlook.com]
Sent: 05 October 2016 11:45
To: Russell Chaseling <rchaseling at plannet21.ie<mailto:rchaseling at plannet21.ie>>
Cc: Brian V <bvanbens at gmail.com<mailto:bvanbens at gmail.com>>; NateCCIE <nateccie at gmail.com<mailto:nateccie at gmail.com>>; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error

Russell,

If you are trying to setup a B2B, you have to use the channel-group command instead of pri-group.

Clock source internal is only supported when using channel-group.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:24 AM, Russell Chaseling <rchaseling at plannet21.ie<mailto:rchaseling at plannet21.ie>> wrote:
Hi,

Did you ever get to the bottom of this?

I'm having same issue trying to be the Master on a 4331 integrating with a Nortel Cs1000

Thanks
Russell

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Brian V
Sent: 28 October 2015 01:46
To: NateCCIE <nateccie at gmail.com<mailto:nateccie at gmail.com>>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error

I've opened a TAC case on it.  I'll report back what I find out.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:43 PM, NateCCIE <nateccie at gmail.com<mailto:nateccie at gmail.com>> wrote:
Ryan,

This doc and sample config seems to only show how to do normal user side & network clocking.

When doing network side isdn to a pbx, you have to provide them the clock, I like Brian have not figured out that part of the 4K voodoo.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com<mailto:ryanhuff at outlook.com>> wrote:
Brian,

You'll essentially be doing the same thing as you would have in the ISRG2 but as you've discovered, the syntax has changed a bit in the 4k's. I've included the relevant portion of a t1 config on a 4k in my lab below. Here is the link for 4th gen NIM t1 configurations (I'd suggest a good read here, a lot of syntax has changed that might leave you scratching your head): http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/interfaces/NIM/software/configuration/guide/ConfT1E1NIM.html

Hope This Helps,

Ryan

|----- CONFIG SAMPLE -----|

card type t1 0 2
!
isdn switch-type primary-ni
!
network-clock synchronization automatic
network-clock synchronization participate 0/2
!
voice-card 0/2
dsp services dspfarm
!
controller T1 0/2/0
framing esf
linecode b8zs
!

clock source line primary

network-clock input-source 1 controller t1 0/2/0
cablelength long 0db
pri-group timeslots 1-24 voice-dsp
!
interface Serial0/2/0:23
encapsulation hdlc
isdn switch-type primary-ni
no cdp enable

!

|----- CONFIG SAMPLE -----|

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Subject: [cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error

I have a ISR 4331 that I'm configuring for voice PRI support.

Performing an integration with a Nortel PBX (back to back PRI) where i need to be the clock source on the underlying T1 circuit.

In the past on ISR G2 platforms (like a 2921),  I could configure "clock source internal" under the controller T1 interface.  On the 4331 I get the following error when the clock source it set to internal under the controller T1

TIV-4331-01-TEMP(config-controller)#pri-group timeslots 1-24

%Cannot create ds0/tdm/pri-group with clock source internal

%pri-group voice-dsp cannot be created under the clock source configuration

How do I accomplish the same on this newer platform or is it no longer possible ?

The NIM does have it's own DSP resources.

I can get the integration up and working, with the default "clock source line",  but I  get slips on the t1 as the Nortel side is free running  and looking to the line as a clock source on its end.

I hope I'm just missing something obvious.

Thanks

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