[cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Tue Jun 27 14:28:00 EDT 2017

True enough. I guess what I was trying to say was, by having a standalone xLM server, it's not dependent on the co-res server staying up. And because version compatibility was not straightforward when we installed things, a standalone server allowed us to service licenses until no longer compatible, then just spin up a new server and migrate/request new licenses.

I guess it's all what you're comfortable with, either way would work.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
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Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

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From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:01 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can still pool even if it's not standalone

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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:51 AM
To: NateCCIE <nateccie at gmail.com>; 'Pawlowski, Adam' <ajp26 at buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

For us, it's the license pooling that is of benefit. Spare licenses can be used to quickly spin up a lab cluster for testing, etc. 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
lelio at uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

-----Original Message-----
From: NateCCIE [mailto:nateccie at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:48 PM
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

I have removed all of the standalone PLM/ELMs from my customers.  It just didn't make sense to have to worry about another box.  I never found a use case that having a separate box actually made a difference.

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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to look at the CLI scheduling options. 

I see that it's going away in v12 (smart only) but we'll be on v11 for the next couple of years at least. So I'd like to see this working. We'll have to watch out for server restarts. I have a script that checks for daily backups so that would theoretically catch it.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
lelio at uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Pawlowski, Adam
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:33 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can schedule it from the CLI but I find that restarting this machine in the past has turned this backup off, and I would have to go reschedule it and turn it on.

If you're using it for usage reporting this is probably more concerning than if it is just providing licensing. Since we don't often issue new licenses out into our system the "restore" would just be missing that usage data but would be fine to restore licensing should we have to rebuild this machine.
(Standalone PLM).

Supposedly it is gone after 11.5 anyways so I am not too concerned about it.
I don't know how the "satellite" works at this point to tell if it is just the same thing as PLM again or not.

Best,

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB NCS

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From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
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Yes ? we?re looking at a stand alone PLM. We have multiple voicemail and cucm clusters and liked the idea of separate xLMs.

In the GUI, I just have backup/restore. That?s it. No devices, no schedules, nothing. Not even # of copies to keep. Docs say that?s limited to 2.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
lelio at uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanhuff at outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Are you dealing with a standalone PLM? If it's co-res, you'd just backup the PLM feature in the normal CUCM DRS.

For standalone, you should be able to use all the normal CLI DRS utilities (or activate the CUCM application for the purpose of accessing DRS).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No scheduled backups, no different backup device configurations.

While I can appreciate not much changing in the licensing manager, it?s still a drag to see this gone. We built some workflow and recovery strategies based on this.

Any ideas as to why this happened?

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

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