[cisco-voip] Field Notice: Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 12.0(x) does not support some deprecated phone models - Cisco

[Ryan Huff]

Lelio, give those users iPhones now .... greatest thing Apple ever did for the IT department is condition users for experience changes on devices whether they want it or not :).

On May 1, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:


Yeah – the mapping of replacement phones will be interesting. For so many reasons. I’m hoping we can continue with a “basic” model and an “advanced model” – with the advanced model having things people want (but don’t need?) like colour, GB connection, multi-lines, etc.

I’m hoping the learning curve isn’t that bad as well – but there will be some learning curve that we need to plan for.

The biggest issue? The have’s and have not’s. Even migrating a building at a time, people will see these new phones and all it takes is the right person to complain and our migration strategy is shot. ☹

Not looking forward to it.

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From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com]
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 12.0(x) does not support some deprecated phone models - Cisco

Yes I am. We mapped 7940s to 7841s and 7960s to 8811s but there are a multitude of options. Learning curve is low in our experience.

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Thanks Matthew – I was not aware of any promos currently out there. We’re talking Cisco’s 2016/17 fiscal year ending July?

Sometimes it’s worth pushing the project through, but we want to make sure we select the right model.


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From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 3:03 PM
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 12.0(x) does not support some deprecated phone models - Cisco

Also there are promos to knock these to 70-75% off list until the end of the FY. You’d save 66% off your estimate possibly.
Cisco really wants old phones out and you get Stephen’s fantastic software for gratis. Users can replace their own phones (if you are feeling frisky)


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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Welsh
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 12.0(x) does not support some deprecated phone models - Cisco

True, no avoiding the hard cost of the phones, but we have clients that would spend almost as much as the phone on services to replace the phone, so that would be £3 million ;)

Kind Regards

Stephen Welsh
CTO

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On 1 May 2017, at 19:50, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:


5,000 sets x $300/set = $1.5 million.

“Mostly” in this case is quite significant.


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From: Stephen Welsh [mailto:stephen.welsh at unifiedfx.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 12.0(x) does not support some deprecated phone models - Cisco

I’m case you are not aware, getting MigrationFX for free means it doesn’t have to be hard or expensive:

http://www.unifiedfx.com/get-migrationfx-for-free/

This is one of the reasons Cisco are starting to depreciate handsets, upgrading phones is ‘mostly' a hardware cost.

Kind Regards

Stephen Welsh
CTO

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On 1 May 2017, at 17:17, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:


Unfortunately, a lot of the ability to replace things comes from the end of support dates and the actual deprecation of devices being published. Without that, funding is diverted to things that need it. At least we’re seeing these deprecation notices a bit sooner (I think) so that helps.

I’ll tell you – with over 5000 7940/60s in the field – it ain’t gonna be pretty. But we’re working on it.

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University of Guelph

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From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanhuff at outlook.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:23 AM
To: Brian Meade
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 12.0(x) does not support some deprecated phone models - Cisco

My guess is because of SLED and GOV. The 40s and 60s were nearly indestructible tanks with many still running. Cisco maybe giving them a longer shelf life to make the CapEx burden for new handsets easier to spread by slowly transitioning those models.

I wouldn't count on them being around forever or much longer though :).

On May 1, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu<mailto:bmeade90 at vt.edu>> wrote:
Very surprised to not see 7940/7960 in there.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Deprecation of old(er) phone models continue

The following phone models are newly deprecated as of the 12.0(x) release:
•  Cisco Unified Wireless IP Phone 7921
•  Cisco Unified IP Phone 7970
•  Cisco Unified IP Phone 7971

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/12_0_1/deprecated_phones/cucm_b_deprecated-phone-models-for-1201.html


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