[cisco-voip] e164 dialplan conversion

Thu Sep 21 10:26:19 EDT 2017

>What advantage/purpose does switching to an e164 dial plan afford you? Is
it just more of a flexibility to mate dial plan/DNs to DIDs?

more flexibility, easier deployment of CTI Applications / Jabber.

With e164 i am using a globally unique id for each DN and this resolves a
lot of issues.

Also these days i expect entries in directories to be e164 because of other
clients (mobile phones) requiring it.

>More importantly, how would an e164 dial plan mesh with a system where the
majority of users do not have DIDs or DIDs that do not match their
>extension plan?

Non DID:

well, you fake it mostly and create some crazy fake patterns. In that case
it is certainly not pretty

non matching extensions:

Again, this can be fixed with translations (and automation). Even for the
non matching extension case i prefer e164, but this is just my personal
opinion

>Is any additional overhead generated by going to an e164 dial plan?

Hard to say. There are some disadvantages (e.g. the extra Translations for
internally dialing) that might limit scale.

>Also, from what I understand, 4-5digit dialing is made possible only by
having proper CSS per site with a translation pattern, not through any
function of >the DN configuration, correct?

Yes or you use alternate enterprise number and put it into another
partition. But in that case there are some stupid corner cases with CURRI
and also CDRs. So translations are kind of the cleanest solution.

Personally for me flexibility and a clean concept are just easier to
achieve with e164. but that is just a personal opinion

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Ben Amick <bamick at humanarc.com> wrote:

> Inexperienced person here chiming in with a question:
>
> What advantage/purpose does switching to an e164 dial plan afford you? Is
> it just more of a flexibility to mate dial plan/DNs to DIDs?
>
> More importantly, how would an e164 dial plan mesh with a system where the
> majority of users do not have DIDs or DIDs that do not match their
> extension plan?
>
> Is any additional overhead generated by going to an e164 dial plan?
>
> Also, from what I understand, 4-5digit dialing is made possible only by
> having proper CSS per site with a translation pattern, not through any
> function of the DN configuration, correct?
>
>
>
> Ben Amick
>
> Unified Communications Analyst
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
> Of *Bernhard Albler
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:04 AM
> *To:* Florian Kroessbacher <florian.kroessbacher at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] e164 dialplan conversion
>
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>
> ucm:
>
> What Florian says is the correct way to do it.
>
> You can also run a sql update against the numplan table which will do 2
> things:
>
> 1.)I you typoed you are in for a lot of pain
>
> 2.)Ucm will load up on change notification (assuming lots of DNs) and
> might come to halt before recovering
>
>
>
> ccx:
>
> Agent DNs in my experience will reflect automatically. Routepoints and CTI
> ports you will need to change manually.
>
>
>
>
>
> Personally i suggest the SQL route as the adrenaline rush is just
> incredible once you realize you made a mistake.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Florian Kroessbacher <
> florian.kroessbacher at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hy out there,
>
> throug updateLine this is working
>
> use old pattern & partition
> and set newpattern
>
> we have done this for 12000 Lines
>
>
> Am 21. Sep. 2017, 15:13 +0200 schrieb Bill Talley <btalley at gmail.com>:
>
> I know there have been some conversations around this in the past, but I’m
> hoping there are new methods for converting from a 4-digit to full e164
> dialplan.
>
> Is there a way to change dialplan entries on CUCM and UCCX without having
> to either individually touch each dialplan pattern or without deleting and
> reimporting/recreating? Has anyone seen or used AXL/SOAP to automate
> modification of dialplan patterns, or used PCP or some third party product
> to accomplish this?
>
> Thanks for any feedback.
>
> Bill
>
> Sent from a mobile device with very tiny touchscreen input keys. Please
> excude my typtos.
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