[cisco-voip] it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Ok. This one goes out to the Cisco folks…

Two compare pages:

Starting from:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en_ca/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/index.html

compare button brings you to:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en_ca/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/models-comparison.html

this one shows only 5 products and different capacities.

Starting from

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/index.html

compare button brings you to:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/models-comparison.html

which shows 7 products and different capacities.





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From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
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To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>; Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>; voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...


Yup – definitely something awry with the compare page. I did a simple copy/paste into a spreadsheet and I have the 4451 supporting up to 2000 SRST, and now it’s at 1500.

Weird. Damn Friday.


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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 5:23 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...

Interesting. I’ll have to do some more reading. I read Jan 2019 at the top of that FAQ. But it’s Jan 2018. That being said, the data sheet is older than the FAQ.

It’s too bad the compare products sheet doesn’t have the modules listed. I did try to configure a 4331 with a T1 module and they do show up, so that’s good.

Of more interest is that either someone at Cisco just updated some web pages or I stumble across an old link, since the 4461 just appeared on the pages!

And I swear I did not see T1s listed in the compare products, but now they do!

Hmmmmmmm

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From: Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>>
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 5:07 PM
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Subject: RE: it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...

That’s not correct. You can do a T1 on 4321s and up.

That’s a very old FAQ from before the 43XXs were out.


https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/data_sheet_c78-728308.html?referring_site=RE&pos=1&page=https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/qa_c67-728823.html


“The modules are supported on the Cisco 4000 and require Cisco IOS XE Software Release 3.9.

The DSP farm services (conferencing & transcoding) on the modules are supported only on Release 3.11 and above.”


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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
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Subject: [cisco-voip] it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...


OK, I knew the writing was on the wall, but I didn’t think I’d be forced to buy the most expensive ISR4K out there, just to support T1/PRIs. ☹

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/qa_c67-728823.html

Cisco Fourth Generation 1-, 2-, 4-, and 8-Port T1/E1 Multiflex Trunk Voice/WAN Network Interface Modules FAQ

Q.    What version of Cisco IOS ® Software is required for supporting the Cisco NIM MFT cards, and what are the Cisco IOS Software license requirements?
A.     The Cisco 1-, 2-, 4-, and 8-port NIM cards are supported only on the Cisco 4451-X ISR. The modules are supported only with Cisco IOS XE 3.9.1.
Data applications require a minimum of the IP Base Technology Package, and voice applications require a minimum of the Unified Communications Technology Package.


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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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