[cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for Video vs Immersive Video

Mon Jul 29 11:31:25 EDT 2019

Jason,

The list isn't a liar if you haven't changed your Service Parameter.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:39 PM Jason Aarons (Americas) <
jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com> wrote:

> I’m fine with leaving them Video, not sure I want to play with changing
> that Service Parameter, 4k phones and hundreds of various “desktop video”
> units (but none Immersive 😊)  .   Since I now know the Cisco WebEx blah
> are desktop video I am happy.
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> *From:* Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:35 PM
> *To:* Jason Aarons (Americas) <jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com>
> *Cc:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>; Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>; cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net)
> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for
> Video vs Immersive Video
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> Jason,
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> After flipping the service parameter, did it respect the immersive
> bandwidth setting on the region?
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> Thanks,
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> Brian Meade
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> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 6:38 PM Jason Aarons (Americas) <
> jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com> wrote:
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> Just to circle back a Room 70 Dual is desktop video same as 8845/65.
> Testing was by adjusting either Video bandwidth or Immersive Bandwidth in
> CUCM regions and then logging into codec and seeing bit rate in use. I had
> presumed something this larger was Immersive, I was wrong.  The Unified
> Reports is a liar as Anthony said 😊
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> The funny part is that Immersive devices don’t use the Immersive bandwidth
> setting due to the service parameter default;
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> *From:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:09 AM
> *To:* Jason Aarons (Americas) <jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com>; Anthony
> Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for
> Video vs Immersive Video
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> What testing did you do? Just curious. Do we know what “immersive video
> support” actually means? Does it mean you need to be talking to an actual
> IX device to get the support?
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> Also – I noticed this. Is your SIP profile set up with Immersive?
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> P.S. I have _*no*_ idea what I’m talking about. These are just guesses.
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> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of *Jason
> Aarons (Americas)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2019 10:29 PM
> *To:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for
> Video vs Immersive Video
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> Here is the report, but testing confirmed a Cisco WebEx Room 55 is not an
> Immersive Video endpoint.  Sort of opposite of what below indicates.
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> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:35 AM
> *To:* Jason Aarons (Americas) <jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for
> Video vs Immersive Video
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> I agree that the name isn't as useful anymore, but did you run the
> report?  If so, do you feel the report is accurate, or are you noticing
> something is wrong with it?
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> Also, you didn't mention if you switched your Service Param over or not,
> else, everything uses non-immersive video by default.
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> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:11 PM Jason Aarons (Americas) <
> jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com> wrote:
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> I can’t recall a new product from the Oslo team that said Telepresence
> it.   The last products where Cisco TelePresence DX70, Cisco Telepresence
> MX200 G2 etc.  The larger 3 panel half table conference room we all
> identify as Telepresence blah.
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> New huddle space products customers like are the Cisco Webex Board 55,
> Cisco Webex Room 55/70.  Based on testing these WebEx Room blah are no
> longer Immersive Video (on right in Regions) but just video endpoints
> similar to a 8845/8865.
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> Guess I was going by the video screen size.  Big meant Telepresence.
> Struggle was TAC SE didn’t know what Immersive Video vs Video was.  The
> CCIE Collab lab is pretty clear the 8845/65 are just video as you have
> tasks related to regions.
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> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 10:22 AM
> *To:* Jason Aarons (Americas) <jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for
> Video vs Immersive Video
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> Did you already change the value of Service Parameter: Use Video
> BandwidthPool for Immersive Video Calls?
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> The classification is per version of CUCM, and thus can be queried in
> CUCM.  See below from SRND.
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> *Endpoint Classification*
> Cisco TelePresence endpoints have a fixed non-configurable Video Call
> Traffic Class of immersive and are identified by Unified CM as *immersive*.
> Telepresence endpoints are defined in Unified CM by the device type. When a
> device is added in Unified CM, any device with TelePresence in the name of
> the device type is classified as *immersive*, as are the generic
> single-screen and multi-screen room systems. Another way to check the
> capabilities of the endpoints in the Unified CM is to go to the *Cisco
> Unified Reporting Tool > System Reports > Unified CM Phone Feature List*.
> In the feature drop down list, select *Immersive Video Support for
> TelePresence Devices* ; in the product drop down list, select *All*. This
> will display all of the device types that are classified as *immersive*.
> All other endpoints have a fixed Video Call Traffic Class of *desktop*
> due to their lack of the non-configurable *immersive *attribute.
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> Source: CUCM 11.x SRND
> <https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/collab11/collab11/cac.html#pgfId-1489913>
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> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 6:51 PM Jason Aarons (Americas) <
> jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com> wrote:
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> Where is there a definitive list of what is Immersive?  Is a Room 55
> Immersive?
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> From my training the left is 88xx video and right were products formerly
> made by Tandberg such as Room 55/DX80/SX80/MX300 etc
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> In a Room 55 trying to figure out if it is left or right side.
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> -jason
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