[cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for Video vs Immersive Video

Thu Jul 25 22:39:04 EDT 2019

I’m fine with leaving them Video, not sure I want to play with changing that Service Parameter, 4k phones and hundreds of various “desktop video” units (but none Immersive 😊)  .   Since I now know the Cisco WebEx blah are desktop video I am happy.

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for Video vs Immersive Video

Jason,

After flipping the service parameter, did it respect the immersive bandwidth setting on the region?

Thanks,
Brian Meade

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 6:38 PM Jason Aarons (Americas) <jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com<mailto:jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com>> wrote:
Just to circle back a Room 70 Dual is desktop video same as 8845/65.  Testing was by adjusting either Video bandwidth or Immersive Bandwidth in CUCM regions and then logging into codec and seeing bit rate in use. I had presumed something this larger was Immersive, I was wrong.  The Unified Reports is a liar as Anthony said 😊

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The funny part is that Immersive devices don’t use the Immersive bandwidth setting due to the service parameter default;
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for Video vs Immersive Video

What testing did you do? Just curious. Do we know what “immersive video support” actually means? Does it mean you need to be talking to an actual IX device to get the support?

Also – I noticed this. Is your SIP profile set up with Immersive?

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P.S. I have _no_ idea what I’m talking about. These are just guesses.

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for Video vs Immersive Video

Here is the report, but testing confirmed a Cisco WebEx Room 55 is not an Immersive Video endpoint.  Sort of opposite of what below indicates.

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for Video vs Immersive Video

I agree that the name isn't as useful anymore, but did you run the report?  If so, do you feel the report is accurate, or are you noticing something is wrong with it?

Also, you didn't mention if you switched your Service Param over or not, else, everything uses non-immersive video by default.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:11 PM Jason Aarons (Americas) <jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com<mailto:jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com>> wrote:
I can’t recall a new product from the Oslo team that said Telepresence it.   The last products where Cisco TelePresence DX70, Cisco Telepresence MX200 G2 etc.  The larger 3 panel half table conference room we all identify as Telepresence blah.

New huddle space products customers like are the Cisco Webex Board 55, Cisco Webex Room 55/70.  Based on testing these WebEx Room blah are no longer Immersive Video (on right in Regions) but just video endpoints similar to a 8845/8865.

Guess I was going by the video screen size.  Big meant Telepresence.  Struggle was TAC SE didn’t know what Immersive Video vs Video was.  The CCIE Collab lab is pretty clear the 8845/65 are just video as you have tasks related to regions.

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 12.5 Regions > Max Session Bit Rate for Video vs Immersive Video

Did you already change the value of Service Parameter: Use Video BandwidthPool for Immersive Video Calls?

The classification is per version of CUCM, and thus can be queried in CUCM.  See below from SRND.

Endpoint Classification
Cisco TelePresence endpoints have a fixed non-configurable Video Call Traffic Class of immersive and are identified by Unified CM as immersive. Telepresence endpoints are defined in Unified CM by the device type. When a device is added in Unified CM, any device with TelePresence in the name of the device type is classified as immersive, as are the generic single-screen and multi-screen room systems. Another way to check the capabilities of the endpoints in the Unified CM is to go to the Cisco Unified Reporting Tool > System Reports > Unified CM Phone Feature List. In the feature drop down list, select Immersive Video Support for TelePresence Devices ; in the product drop down list, select All. This will display all of the device types that are classified as immersive. All other endpoints have a fixed Video Call Traffic Class of desktop due to their lack of the non-configurable immersive attribute.

Source: CUCM 11.x SRND<https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/collab11/collab11/cac.html#pgfId-1489913>

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 6:51 PM Jason Aarons (Americas) <jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com<mailto:jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com>> wrote:

Where is there a definitive list of what is Immersive?  Is a Room 55 Immersive?

From my training the left is 88xx video and right were products formerly made by Tandberg such as Room 55/DX80/SX80/MX300 etc

In a Room 55 trying to figure out if it is left or right side.

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