[cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings

Thu Nov 14 12:12:30 EST 2019

If the endpoints are cloud-registered, you can disable it asking for a host
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:56 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

>
> I think you've hit the nail on the head Adam.
>
> The idea of these room systems are great... they really do making joining
> meetings easy (as long as you know to bring your host PIN, argh!).
>
> But I think we are going to be relegated to providing the best fit for
> all, which, in the end, might be a USB enabled room. ☹
>
> Why Cisco didn't (and doesn't intend to) extend the USB-plug-webcam option
> for their larger units is beyond me. Could be technical, who knows. But
> that would surely open up the justification for these room systems.
>
>
>
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of
> Pawlowski, Adam
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:52 AM
> To: 'James Andrewartha' <jandrewartha at ccgs.wa.edu.au>;
> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings
>
> I don't know if that whole mess is necessary to join a Zoom call. If the
> party who sent you the Zoom invite has the connector service for interop,
> you can usually call the meeting by <meetingnumber>@zoomcrc.com as  SIP
> call. If they don't, it prompts you to sign in on an app with your account
> (which is paying for a connector license I guess) and then you can join the
> meeting that way.
>
> In my experience with that, I've yet to come across a Zoom meeting I've
> been invited to where someone has the connector on their account, and we
> don't pay for one. In that case the Room Kit ends up being largely useless.
> Yes you can share in a PC but then making use of the camera is expensive.
>
> And before anyone waves in with "Room Kit Mini", the framing on that is
> meant for some very limited room sizes and is not suitable to the type of
> space you'd be installing a proper codec to anyways.
>
> All of these disparate services work best if you can coax the other
> participant(s) into playing in your house with your services.
>
> We've unfortunately decided not to pursue the Webex systems given this,
> and have instead gone with external cameras and microphones that we can
> present to a PC as a USB device. Not for everyone and doesn't fit all cases.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of
> > James Andrewartha
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:43 PM
> > To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings
> >
> > Zoom do sell a connector for Cisco room systems, but I don't know how
> > well it works for joining third-party zoom meetings. The setup
> > instructions are quite involved
> > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115003126346-Zoom-
> > Connector-for-Cisco
> >
> > I've just put in a Logitech Tap Microsoft Teams Room system and the
> > announced compatibility with Webex and Zoom makes me happy we went
> > with them. Someone noted there's been no public agreement between
> > Webex and Zoom, only between them and MS Teams.
> >
> > --
> > James Andrewartha
> > Network & Projects Engineer
> > Christ Church Grammar School
> > Claremont, Western Australia
> > Ph. (08) 9442 1757
> > Mob. 0424 160 877
> >
> > On 14/11/19 7:13 am, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> > >
> > > The question is whether or not the Zoom devices can dial other systems.
> > >
> > > If you're getting Zoom across the board, that's fine. But if you
> > > can't
> > participate with other systems, then you've further pigeon hole'd
> yourself.
> > >
> > > If that makes sense.
> > >
> > > The fact that Webex/Microsoft signed a deal is even more weight for
> > > Webex
> > devices.
> > >
> > > But I hear what you're saying. If your zoom, hard to say buy webex.
> > > ☹
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> > > Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> > > Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> > > 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
> > >
> > > www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Myron Young <mdavid_young at hotmail.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:52 PM
> > > To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> > > Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > > Subject: Re: Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings
> > >
> > > Thanks for the insight. I will try with the cloud device to test
> > > this out and see if
> > i can convince the powers that be. Otherwise we may be going full Zoom
> > which I’m not adverse to, but would be very unfamiliar territories.
> > >
> > >> On Nov 13, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I've not had any production experience, only testing.
> > >>
> > >> From a cloud registered endpoint perspective, you'll likely be
> > >> using the
> > "Call" button and have to enter the video address of the meeting. You
> > shouldn't have any issues.
> > >>
> > >> What I don't like is the fact that forwarded meeting invites do not
> > >> appear on
> > the screen and/or show up with a join button.
> > >>
> > >> Scenario: Your org is exclusively Webex, but your vendor sends you
> > >> a Zoom
> > invite. They can't book your room. You need to book it yourself. The
> > easiest way is to setup your O365 to allow rooms to auto-accept
> > forwarded invites (and include all meeting notes). However, the
> > meeting information never shows up on the device. I have tried
> > replicating the meeting information via copy and paste and I believe
> > that works (now I can't remember). My beef was that even forwarded Webex
> invites don't work!
> > >>
> > >> I'm hoping they resolve that soon.
> > >>
> > >> You could also consider writing an applet/macro for the device for
> > >> Zoom,
> > etc that asks for a meeting number and tags the domain.
> > >>
> > >> The other thing is, if the far end supports video endpoints, they
> > >> typically
> > support call back as well.
> > >>
> > >> The other other thing is, if you download the far end's mobile app,
> > >> you
> > should be able to click on the meeting in your mobile calendar, it
> > launch the mobile app, and that should have a "call my video device"
> option.
> > >>
> > >> All things worth trying...
> > >>
> > >> Let us know how you make out.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> > >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> > >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> > >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
> > >>
> > >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of
> > >> Myron Young
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 4:24 PM
> > >> To: cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > >> Subject: [cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> Anyone has any good experience in joining non-Webex meetings from
> > >> the
> > Cisco roomkit devices? Trying to deploy a standard for conference
> > rooms with roomkit devices and touch 10 but need to make sure user
> > experience is easy or similar when joining Webex meetings vs non-webex
> > meetings such as Zoom, Blue Jeans or Microsoft meetings.
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> > --
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> > Mob. 0424 160 877
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