[cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber

Fri Sep 13 14:10:45 EDT 2019

LOL.  Problem is, if you have a large deployment, even something as small
as 50 users, coming up with unique names is problematic.  For those of us
deploying in bulk, using the AD user-id is perfect, you can concatenate in
Excel quickly to generate the device names (CSFjsnow, TCTJSNOW, BOTJSNOW,
TABJSNOW).

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 1:07 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

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> Interesting. I must have simply read it incorrectly. I don’t think I would
> have picked any other formatting in retrospect.
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> What are others using?
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> Other than Anthony, who’s focused on fruits for some reason.
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> I’d like to be AVOCADO.
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> *From:* Charles Goldsmith <w at woka.us>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2019 1:47 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>; cisco-voip voyp
> list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber
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> It just has to be unique, the association comes from the End User device
> association as well as the Owner User ID.  Anthony has it correct.
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> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:41 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> Ok. Hold on. Are you sure? I did mean userID. As a Cisco requirement. Not
> company standard.
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> I’m almost 100% positive I read in the deployment guide it needs to be the
> userID. And it was the Jabber deployment guide. Which, of course, I didn’t
> save. 😉
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> When asking about it, I was told, it was really the only way you could get
> a Jabber device to associate with a user after logon. How else would you?
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> I mean, there’s nothing else I think I’d really want to use, but,
> honestly, I believe(d) it’s a requirement.
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> Lelio
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> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
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> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
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> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2019 12:40 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc:* Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu>; cisco-voip voyp list <
> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber
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> "... when we know the device name for the softphones needs to be the
> userID"
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> Just to be clear, it does not.  That was an old CUPC requirement, and the
> new requirements are as follows:
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> CSF = could be whatever you want, e.g., banana (unless you have QM call
> recording, then it needs to be all caps CSFSOMETHING for QM)
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> TCT = must be all caps TCTSOMETHING
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> BOT =  must be all caps BOTSOMETHING
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> TAB = must be all caps TABSOMETHING
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> None of them however, need the User ID in the name.  Could be TCTBANANA
> for example.
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> Maybe that's not what you meant.  Maybe you meant, for your company's
> standard build, but I thought I'd address that, since other people might
> have read that it needed to be that way.
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> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> This looks like an interesting option. I’ll have to see how much effort it
> takes to get the templates set up in order for us to use this.
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> I didn’t like the fact that it’s asking me to fill in the device name,
> when we know the device name for the softphones needs to be the userID. So
> this is a step that could lead to errors and extra effort.
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> I know this sounds like _*I*_ don’t want to do this stuff, but when
> you’re preparing instructions for a group of people with varying skill
> sets, the less work required the better.
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> At least we have some options.
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> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
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> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
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> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
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> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
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> *From:* Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2019 11:02 AM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>; cisco-voip voyp
> list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber
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> Have you tried using the Quick/User Phone Add?  That works pretty well.
> Just assign device/line templates to user profiles and adding a
> CSF/TCT/RDP/Deskphone/TAB/BOT device for a user takes all of a minute at
> most.
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> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:42 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> I guess it’s a combo of built-in tools and tools people are familiar with.
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> I like the idea, but again, adding extra steps like that might not work.
> Now, that being said, I wonder if I can modify the order in which the
> columns are presented to the import tool? If they allow headers, that
> should be ok, right?
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> I might be stuck with looking for green columns for the first round. ☹
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> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
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> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
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> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
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> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
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> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2019 10:31 AM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber
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> "...I need to use the built-in tools..."
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> So, Excel + BAT is built-in, and Python + AXL is not?
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> I kid, I kid.  I get that there's a common familiarity with Excel and not
> one with Python.
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> I have a recommendation when working with BAT import files in Excel.
> Insert a few input columns to the left of the actual data, and then drive
> your entire spreadsheet with formulas.  This will save you from having to
> constantly scroll left and right look for cells you need to fill in.  You
> will have to exclude them when you export/save as csv.  However, keeping
> the input columns together on the left should make this very easy.  You can
> duplicate the sheet and delete them, you can have two different files: XLSX
> and CSV, you can copy and paste into Notepad++ and CTRL+H replace tabs (\t)
> with commas (,).  There's a few options there.  Anyway, I find it much
> nicer to input the data this way.  I hope it helps you too.
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> Do this:
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> [image: image.png]
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> Not this:
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> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:24 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> We really need to start to minimize the amount of custom scripts /
> programming that we use, not increase it.
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> It’s a bit of a long story.
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> So I need to use the built-in tools.
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> :(
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> We might just stick with super copy if bulk admin doesn’t work out.
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> Lelio
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> *-sent from mobile device-*
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> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
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> On Sep 12, 2019, at 7:48 PM, Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Why not roll your own build tool in Python?  You can ask questions here,
> as lots of us have Python and AXL experience, and then more people get to
> benefit from the collaboration.
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> Just think how cool it would be to build your very own Jarvis:
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> <image.png>
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> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 5:22 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> It’s been a while since I’ve used Bulk Admin Tool.
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> Wondering how it might help with our Jabber deployment.
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> I’m thinking, since our requests will come in one at a time, the best
> approach would be to create a BAT file that has a line for each device
> type. We’ve decided to load all types so users can switch devices out/in as
> they wish.
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> Can you bulk load _without_ using a template?
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> What have others done with respect to Jabber bulk loads?
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> Lelio
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> *-sent from mobile device-*
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> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
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> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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