[cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber

Brian Meade bmeade90 at vt.edu
Fri Sep 13 14:35:32 EDT 2019


What's nice is Quick User/Phone Add already puts the prefix and
auto-changes the format of the device name to all caps when saving.  I
usually copy the username and just paste it in there.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:40 PM Anthony Holloway <
avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:

> "... when we know the device name for the softphones needs to be the
> userID"
>
> Just to be clear, it does not.  That was an old CUPC requirement, and the
> new requirements are as follows:
>
> CSF = could be whatever you want, e.g., banana (unless you have QM call
> recording, then it needs to be all caps CSFSOMETHING for QM)
> TCT = must be all caps TCTSOMETHING
> BOT =  must be all caps BOTSOMETHING
> TAB = must be all caps TABSOMETHING
>
> None of them however, need the User ID in the name.  Could be TCTBANANA
> for example.
>
> Maybe that's not what you meant.  Maybe you meant, for your company's
> standard build, but I thought I'd address that, since other people might
> have read that it needed to be that way.
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>> This looks like an interesting option. I’ll have to see how much effort
>> it takes to get the templates set up in order for us to use this.
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn’t like the fact that it’s asking me to fill in the device name,
>> when we know the device name for the softphones needs to be the userID. So
>> this is a step that could lead to errors and extra effort.
>>
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>>
>> I know this sounds like _*I*_ don’t want to do this stuff, but when
>> you’re preparing instructions for a group of people with varying skill
>> sets, the less work required the better.
>>
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>> At least we have some options.
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>> ---
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>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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>> N1G 2W1
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>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
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>>
>> *From:* Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2019 11:02 AM
>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>> *Cc:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>; cisco-voip
>> voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber
>>
>>
>>
>> Have you tried using the Quick/User Phone Add?  That works pretty well.
>> Just assign device/line templates to user profiles and adding a
>> CSF/TCT/RDP/Deskphone/TAB/BOT device for a user takes all of a minute at
>> most.
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:42 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I guess it’s a combo of built-in tools and tools people are familiar
>> with.
>>
>>
>>
>> I like the idea, but again, adding extra steps like that might not work.
>> Now, that being said, I wonder if I can modify the order in which the
>> columns are presented to the import tool? If they allow headers, that
>> should be ok, right?
>>
>>
>>
>> I might be stuck with looking for green columns for the first round. ☹
>>
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>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2019 10:31 AM
>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>> *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber
>>
>>
>>
>> "...I need to use the built-in tools..."
>>
>>
>>
>> So, Excel + BAT is built-in, and Python + AXL is not?
>>
>>
>>
>> I kid, I kid.  I get that there's a common familiarity with Excel and not
>> one with Python.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a recommendation when working with BAT import files in Excel.
>> Insert a few input columns to the left of the actual data, and then drive
>> your entire spreadsheet with formulas.  This will save you from having to
>> constantly scroll left and right look for cells you need to fill in.  You
>> will have to exclude them when you export/save as csv.  However, keeping
>> the input columns together on the left should make this very easy.  You can
>> duplicate the sheet and delete them, you can have two different files: XLSX
>> and CSV, you can copy and paste into Notepad++ and CTRL+H replace tabs (\t)
>> with commas (,).  There's a few options there.  Anyway, I find it much
>> nicer to input the data this way.  I hope it helps you too.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do this:
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>> [image: image.png]
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>> Not this:
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>> [image: image.png]
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>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:24 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> We really need to start to minimize the amount of custom scripts /
>> programming that we use, not increase it.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s a bit of a long story.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I need to use the built-in tools.
>>
>>
>>
>> :(
>>
>>
>>
>> We might just stick with super copy if bulk admin doesn’t work out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lelio
>>
>> *-sent from mobile device-*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2019, at 7:48 PM, Anthony Holloway <
>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why not roll your own build tool in Python?  You can ask questions here,
>> as lots of us have Python and AXL experience, and then more people get to
>> benefit from the collaboration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just think how cool it would be to build your very own Jarvis:
>>
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>>
>> <image.png>
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>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 5:22 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s been a while since I’ve used Bulk Admin Tool.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wondering how it might help with our Jabber deployment.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m thinking, since our requests will come in one at a time, the best
>> approach would be to create a BAT file that has a line for each device
>> type. We’ve decided to load all types so users can switch devices out/in as
>> they wish.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you bulk load _without_ using a template?
>>
>>
>>
>> What have others done with respect to Jabber bulk loads?
>>
>>
>>
>> Lelio
>>
>> *-sent from mobile device-*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
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