[cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Nimloth nimloth at nimloth.pl
Tue Sep 17 16:13:06 EDT 2019 

NC = "Non-China COO" where COO is Country of origin ;)

Case solved

W dniu 17 wrz 2019, 22:09, o 22:09, użytkownik Nimloth <nimloth at nimloth.pl> napisał:
 >Not sure. I would guess not manufactured in China
>
>W dniu 17 wrz 2019, 22:07, o 22:07, użytkownik Anthony Holloway
><avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> napisał:
> >So what is that, like it can't be imported and used inside of China? 
>>Or
>>that it wasn't manufactured in China?
>>
>>On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Nimloth <nimloth at nimloth.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> Non-China to be more accurate
>>> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth <nimloth at nimloth.pl>
>>> napisał:
>>>>
>>>> NC = No China
>>>> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway <
>>>> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> napisał:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to
>>think
>>>>> it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself
>>like a
>>>>> piece of Ikea furniture.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan <
>>>>> james.buchanan2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With much searching, this site:
>>>>>> https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the
>>"NC"
>>>>>> phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for
>>sure, but I
>>>>>> thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At
>>least it
>>>>>> would explain why it's more expensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam <
>>ajp26 at buffalo.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth
>>are
>>>>>>> still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and
>want
>>the same
>>>>>>> appearance everywhere?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby
>>or
>>>>>>> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something
>>to see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On
>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Hunter Fuller <hf0002 at uah.edu>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike <mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list,
>>cisco-voip (
>>>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth +
>>Intelligent
>>>>>>> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From the brochure:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E |
>>Guelph, ON
>>>>>>> | N1G 2W1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>tagline]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Hunter Fuller <hf0002 at uah.edu>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>; Norton, Mike <
>>>>>>> mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>>>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The
>use
>>case
>>>>>>> for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Hunter Fuller
>>>>>>> Router Jockey
>>>>>>> VBH Annex B-5
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Office of Information Technology
>>>>>>> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
>>>>>>> Network Engineering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi
>><lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E |
>>Guelph, ON
>>>>>>> | N1G 2W1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and
>Facebook
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life
>>tagline]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike <mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list,
>>cisco-voip (
>>>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I
>>couldn't
>>>>>>> find it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming
>>up on
>>>>>>> phones that normally have a camera?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi
>><lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone
>>vs UC
>>>>>>> Phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E |
>>Guelph, ON
>>>>>>> | N1G 2W1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and
>Facebook
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life
>>tagline]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On
>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>> *Charles Goldsmith
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Norton, Mike <mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <
>>>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I was way off...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking
>>of the
>>>>>>> NR version, which is no radio anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike
>><mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto
>>*and*
>>>>>>> strong crypto"????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -mn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> On Behalf
>>Of
>>>>>>> Charles Goldsmith
>>>>>>> Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
>>>>>>> To: Myron Young <mdavid_young at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <
>>>>>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Export purposes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young
>><mdavid_young at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no
>>>>>>> crypto phone?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi
>><lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> AH. Gotcha.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> ---
>>>>>>> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and
>>Communications
>>>>>>> >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science &
>>Nutrition
>>>>>>> >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>>>>>>> >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | lelio at uoguelph.ca
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and
>>Facebook
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> >> From: Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>
>>>>>>> >> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
>>>>>>> >> To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>>> >> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net)
>>>>>>> >> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> No crypto
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi
>><lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And
>the
>>NC
>>>>>>> version is more expensive with a longer lead time.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google
>search.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> ---
>>>>>>> >>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and
>>Communications
>>>>>>> >>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science &
>>>>>>> Nutrition
>>>>>>> >>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>>>>>>> >>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
>>>>>>> >>> lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs> | @UofGCCS
>on
>>>>>>> >>> Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>>>>> >>>
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>>>>>>> >>>
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