[cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Lelio Fulgenzi lelio at uoguelph.ca
Tue Sep 17 16:36:50 EDT 2019


Where do we see this description? Source/Reference? (if you can share)

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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Nimloth
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

NC = "Non-China COO" where COO is Country of origin ;)
Case solved
W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:09, użytkownik Nimloth <nimloth at nimloth.pl<mailto:nimloth at nimloth.pl>> napisał:
Not sure. I would guess not manufactured in China
W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:07, użytkownik Anthony Holloway < avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com<mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>> napisał:
So what is that, like it can't be imported and used inside of China?  Or that it wasn't manufactured in China?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Nimloth < nimloth at nimloth.pl<mailto:nimloth at nimloth.pl>> wrote:
Non-China to be more accurate
W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth < nimloth at nimloth.pl<mailto:nimloth at nimloth.pl>> napisał:
NC = No China
W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway < avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com<mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>> napisał:
I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to think it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like a piece of Ikea furniture.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan < james.buchanan2 at gmail.com<mailto:james.buchanan2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

With much searching, this site: https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the "NC" phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure, but I thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least it would explain why it's more expensive.

Thanks,

James

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam < ajp26 at buffalo.edu<mailto:ajp26 at buffalo.edu>> wrote:
Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.

I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same appearance everywhere?

Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.

The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.

Adam


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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent Proximity over what an 8841 has.

From the brochure:

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf

Probably more.


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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...

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On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Hmmm, no camera would make sense.

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.

Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on phones that normally have a camera?

The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.


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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Well, I was way off...

I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR version, which is no radio anyway.

Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike <mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca<mailto:mikenorton at pwsd76.ab.ca>> wrote:
But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and* strong crypto"????

-mn


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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

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> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young <mdavid_young at hotmail.com<mailto:mdavid_young at hotmail.com>> wrote:
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> Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto phone?
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>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
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>> AH. Gotcha.
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>> From: Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org<mailto:wokka at justfamily.org>>
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>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
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>> No crypto
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>>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
>>>
>>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC version is more expensive with a longer lead time.
>>>
>>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.
>>>
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