[f-nsp] BigIron 4000 and Full Internet Table

Jayabalan Subramanian jb at netmagicsolutions.com
Wed Nov 15 00:58:00 EST 2006


Hello Gunther,

Your opinion and inputs went a long way in influencing our decision to go
with MLX. We thank you for that. Will keep you updated on how it performs as
soon as I get my hands on the MLX.

Regards,

JB

-----Original Message-----
From: foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Gunther
Stammwitz
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:59 PM
To: 'Gerald Krause'; 'Brendan Mannella'
Cc: foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [f-nsp] BigIron 4000 and Full Internet Table


Hello Gerald,

Why it is true that those system will most probably melt down during a dos
there are no problems during normal operations:

On a B8GMR3 (so this really is an old M3 and not even a M4) three full bgp
views and about 30 ebgp-peers are no problem at all: show memory
Total DRAM: 268378112 bytes
  Dynamic memory: 243212284 bytes total, 60750176 bytes free, 75% used
      BGP memory: 83671000 bytes (34%) used from dynamic memory

The cam is a little bit low during peak hours as you can see below:
show cam ip 1/1 stat
CAM IP statistics:      free entries    total entries
           level1:      654             8192
           level2:      1644            2048
           level3:      2010            2047
The use ip net-aggregate and a shorter interval like 5 can resolve this
problem.

Okay.. During a dos from inside your network that targets many many
different destinations on the internet the cam will most probably get
exhausted and if that happens the cpu is being utilized. This is not
necessarily bad but as soon as there too much load packets will get dropped
and the bgp-scheduler might be unabl to respond to keepalive requests and so
on which is not a good thing (tm).

Gunther

> > am hearing issues regarding the flows causing CPU to increase.
>
> Ok, that's a complete different thing and where discussed
> here more than one time before: such systems will melt down
> when flows growing up (e.g.(d)DOS's) because of the lack of
> enough CAM space.
>
> --
> Gerald    (ax/tc)

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