[f-nsp] mpls + bgp support on NI CES2K

Matt Kassawara mkassawara at gmail.com
Sun May 12 16:34:53 EDT 2013


The CER is basically a 1U MLX/XMR.


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, David Unfried <dunfried at linkline.com>wrote:

> Based on my first hand observation using a CER, the CER is FPGA based
>
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>
> FWIW, I'm pretty sure neither the CES or CER are merchant silicon. In fact,
> I'm pretty sure the forwarding plane on these guys are FPGA based.
>
> That being said, the CES does have less CAM than the CER does, sip that
> does
> limit scalability.  Otherwise the difference is in the licensing model in
> the control plane.
>
> I'll also say, my message to vendors is consistently that software feature
> licenses are a negative mark when I'm considering gear. If Brocade/Foundry
> people are listening, please take this message back to your product
> management people.
>
> Nick Hilliard <nick at foobar.org> wrote:
>
> >On 12/05/2013 16:16, Erich Hohermuth wrote:
> >> In my opinion you either buy a cer if you need mpls layer3 or a MLX.
> >> There are alot of caveats in the configuration and you have to read
> >> the documentation really carefully cause some features are not
> compatible.
> >> The hardware is really limited in terms of routing instances (vrf).
> >
> >I don't expect a box like this to scale infinitely.  It's merchant
> >silicon and this comes with reasonably well understood scaling limitations
> (e.g.
> >routing instances, port buffers, LAG hashing, etc) - that's the
> >trade-off for getting the port cost down from what you'd otherwise pay
> >for bigger iron.  It's just that as it stands, the box does not compete
> >especially well with products from other vendors in terms of bang per
> buck.
> >
> >Nick
> >
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