[f-nsp] Extreme Networks bought MLX/VDX/SLX - what about future ?
Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
bengelly at gmail.com
Fri Apr 14 01:06:09 EDT 2017
Hello Wilbur,
Will SLX-OS finally support a true hitless ISSU ? As we all know, that was
a major lack of the NetIron platform.
Best regards.
2017-04-13 21:07 GMT+02:00 Wilbur Smith <wsmith at brocade.com>:
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> As SLX-OS adopts more routing & carrier features from CES & CER, you’ll
> see a ToR SLX be positioned as an eventual replacement for the CER. This
> was planned before the Extreme acquisition, so no changes to that process
> as of now. CES/CER shares the codebase with MLX, so as long as we’re
> developing for the MLX you can expect to see those enhancements come over
> to CES/CER.
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> Wilbur
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> *From: *foundry-nsp <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net> on behalf of
> Mike Allen <mkallen at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 2:52 PM
> *To: *"i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt" <martijnschmidt at i3d.net>
> *Cc: *Stanley Vignier via foundry-nsp <foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [f-nsp] Extreme Networks bought MLX/VDX/SLX - what about
> future ?
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> Hi guys, that is all correct, CES/CER is included as part of the MLX
> platform, and has been subject to ROHS restrictions lately. Right now BNA
> is more up in the air, it will continue to be maintained for a year but
> Brocade is keeping the BNA name long term. I would expect those functions
> to migrate to Smart Insight on the Arris side, and either BWC or Extreme's
> management platform eventually.
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> Mike
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> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:05 PM, i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt <
> martijnschmidt at i3d.net> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> That being said, I believe the CER/CES are end of sales in Europe due to
> RoHS regulations: customs will not allow them to be imported. If I recall
> correctly they are still being sold in the rest of the world though.
>
> Best regards,
> Martijn
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> On 12 April 2017 21:58:16 CEST, Stanley Vignier via foundry-nsp <
> foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net> wrote:
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> Robert,
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> CER/CES is part of the Engineering team that is going to go to Extreme.
> The CER/CER is part of the NetIron team as the MLXe as well.
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> V/R
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> Stan
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> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 3:48 PM, Robert Hass <robhass at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi
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> Thanks for update.
>
> Anyway what will happen to CER/CES products ? BNA ? As Extreme didn't
> bought CER/CES and as you wrote PM & Eng team will go to Extreme there will
> be no any development for CER/CES routers ?
>
> Rob
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>
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> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Wilbur Smith <wsmith at brocade.com> wrote:
>
> Wanted to send a quick update. Please regard my info as “unofficial”
> because Brocade hasn’t made any formal announcements, but the entire PM &
> Engineering teams for MLX, VDX, SLX, & StackStorm are slated to move over
> to Extreme. This is good news because it means Extreme will keep investing
> in these products and their roadmaps; there wouldn’t be a reason to bring
> all of the teams over (and pay their salaries) if Extreme was planning on
> sun setting these products early. Hopefully your account teams will have
> some additional details on what the transition plan is over the next few
> weeks. One challenge on sharing information is FTC rules about sharing
> information before the actual sale goes through, but as we get closer to
> the close date more info should be coming.
>
> On a side note, the Virtual SLX-OS code should be posted to MyBrocade
> soon; this is a modified version of SLX-OS we’ll be distributing for free
> to help prototype & test network design with the SLX. The code can be
> launched from any Linux KVM hypervisor, with on VM acting as the management
> module and additional VMs acting as the line cards. Version 1.0 will be
> control-plane only, so you can use it to get a feel for the CLI or test
> scripting against the supported APIs. Version 2 should launch later this
> year and will also include data-plane, so can prototype actual routing &
> switching scenarios virtually.
>
> Wilbur
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> On 3/31/17, 9:49 AM, "foundry-nsp on behalf of Wilbur Smith" <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.
> nether.net <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net> on behalf of
> wsmith at brocade.com> wrote:
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> Hay Guys,
>
> More info should be coming out on how this will all work, but the MLX,
> VDX, & SLX will be continued to be developed by Extreme because
> frankly…it’s better that what they currently have. The SLX is basically the
> replacement for the MLX (based on MLX & VDX code) and Extreme needs that
> box. Both VDX & MLX have large install bases that generate revenue. Anyone
> acquiring those product lies wouldn’t kill them off because they need that
> revenue to pay down any debt used to finance the purchase; it doesn’t make
> financial sense. All those products are also part of multi-year support
> contracts with the US Government (our largest customer), so Extreme or
> Arris couldn’t walk away from the products even if they wanted to.
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> I know…not the answer you wanted to hear (no one in Brocade wanted to
> be purchased either), but your account teams should have more info over the
> next few weeks.
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> Wilbur
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> On 3/31/17, 3:51 AM, "foundry-nsp on behalf of Jethro R Binks" <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.
> nether.net <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net> on behalf of
> jethro.binks at strath.ac.uk> wrote:
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> It is concerning that the edge has gone one way to Arris and the
> data
>
> centre part to Extreme. What's going to happen to the code which
> they
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> have been gradually unifiying over all these years? Is it going to
>
> fracture again? Or, probably unlikely, is that spun off
> separately and
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> will sell to both units? Or is there an agreement for one to
> maintain it
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> and the other to buy it in? Can't see how that could work. What
> branding
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> will be kept? What will happen to those relationships you've
> built up
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> with account managers and technical support?
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> Uncertain times, and I can't see a happy outcome with long-standing
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> Brocade/Foundry corporate customers who want both edge and
> core/dist/dc
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> equipment.
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> Jethro.
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> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017, Robert Hass wrote:
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> > Hi
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> > Just readed that Extreme Network bought MLX/VDX and SLX products
> from
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> > Brocade/Broadcom:
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> > https://urldefense.proofpoint. com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
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> > I'm wondering what will be future for these products -
> especially as we
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> > invested a lot of time and money to deploy them in our network.
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> > I don't have any experiences with Extreme. Any thoughts ?
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> > Rob
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